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- Nominator(s): Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 00:37, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
This article is about another Neolithic site in England, this one being investigated by a Canadian research team, for some reason; only one excavation so far, so not a lot of findings to report, which is a pity as there's a possible Neolithic longhouse or Anglo-Saxon hall in part of the site, which I'm sure the team are keen to get to. The article has had a very helpful pre-FAC review from UndercoverClassicist. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 00:37, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Images are appropriately licensed. Nikkimaria (talk) 04:22, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
sawyer777
editvery exciting, always happy to see archaeology at FAC! i can commit to a review for this in the next few days. ... sawyer * he/they * talk 12:34, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
initial suggestions/comments:
- (lead) i'd link person-days (redirect to "man hour" but still useful for those unfamiliar)
- Done. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 01:50, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- (lead) it should be "McMaster" not "McMasters" University
- Oops. Done. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 01:50, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- (site) link Anglo-Saxon here as well
- Done. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 01:50, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- (discovery, fieldwalking & watching briefs) "though this will require excavation to confirm." i'd change that to something more like "this would require excavation" or maybe "excavation would be required for confirmation".
- I agree that "will" doesn't sound ideal, but I don't think "would" works any better. The problem with "would" is that "X would later be required" can mean "X happened later, as was required"; we need a form of words that can't be misread to indicate it actually happened. I settled on "will", even though it jars a bit with the past tense of the narrative, because it's a true statement -- right now, excavation will be required to confirm what those features are. I thought about reversing it so that instead of saying what will be needed, it says that it hasn't happened: "... some of which could be Saxon sunken-featured buildings, though as they have not yet been excavated this has not been confirmed", but I think that's uglier and less true to the source's point, which is just "here's a theory, but it needs excavation to confirm it". Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 01:50, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- fair enough! ... sawyer * he/they * talk 15:02, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- I agree that "will" doesn't sound ideal, but I don't think "would" works any better. The problem with "would" is that "X would later be required" can mean "X happened later, as was required"; we need a form of words that can't be misread to indicate it actually happened. I settled on "will", even though it jars a bit with the past tense of the narrative, because it's a true statement -- right now, excavation will be required to confirm what those features are. I thought about reversing it so that instead of saying what will be needed, it says that it hasn't happened: "... some of which could be Saxon sunken-featured buildings, though as they have not yet been excavated this has not been confirmed", but I think that's uglier and less true to the source's point, which is just "here's a theory, but it needs excavation to confirm it". Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 01:50, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- (finds from 2019 excavation) "acid soil" --> "acidic soil"
- Done. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 01:50, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- (sources) i'd add ISSNs to journals/periodicals where available, for consistency & usefulness to the curious reader
- I generally don't add ISSNs, though I often see people adding them to articles I write, and I don't remove them. I don't find them helpful myself. If you think it's necessary I'll add them, though. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 01:50, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- one citation does already have an ISSN, which is why i suggested it. i like to add them, but if you don't usually, then i have no objection to you removing that singular one! ... sawyer * he/they * talk 15:01, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- I generally don't add ISSNs, though I often see people adding them to articles I write, and I don't remove them. I don't find them helpful myself. If you think it's necessary I'll add them, though. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 01:50, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
overall the prose and such is great, not many issues at all. i think i'll do a source review for this as well - if i've not done that by sunday, ping me. ... sawyer * he/they * talk 21:53, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 01:50, 19 September 2024 (UTC)