Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Hawker Hurricane in Yugoslav service/archive1
- The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The article was promoted by Sarastro1 via FACBot (talk) 21:57, 6 May 2017 [1].
- Nominator(s): Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 06:31, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
The iconic Hawker Hurricane I fighter saw service with the Royal Yugoslav Air Force immediately prior to WWII, then during the April 1941 Axis invasion of the country. Later, the Partisan leader Josip Broz Tito negotiated the creation of two Royal Air Force fighter/bomber squadrons staffed by Yugoslavs, one of which flew ground support missions for the Partisans in 1944–1945 using the Hurricane IV. The aircraft was retired from Yugoslav service in the early 1950s. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 06:31, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
Support on prose per my standard disclaimer. These are my edits. As always, feel free to revert my copyediting. Logical presentation, easy to follow. - Dank (push to talk) 17:29, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks Dan! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 01:04, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
Support Placeholder -- I reviewed/copyedited/supported this very interesting article at MilHist ACR, but will give others a chance to look it over and perhaps suggest their own improvements before I walk through here. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 07:22, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
- I think two weeks is time enough... No issues with any of the changes made since I reviewed at ACR; I just tweaked a couple of bits that I felt could stand improvement. Structure, prose, and level of detail seem appropriate for FA. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 08:35, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review and tweaks, Ian. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:45, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
Source review
- Formatting looks fine (I don't think we need "England" after "London" in the locations but no big deal).
- Sources appear reliable; as far as the Niehorster website goes, I was initially in two minds since although he's apparently published several books I'm not familiar with the publishers, but OTOH he is used to support pretty routine info and little enough of that anyway. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 08:35, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks Ian. Niehorster has been used in several FAs and FLs. For orbats, he's the man. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:45, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
Images are appropriately licensed. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:01, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks Nikkimaria! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 23:06, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
Support I believer this article meets FAC standards. No suggestions for improvement. Hawkeye7 (talk) 02:06, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks Hawkeye7! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:40, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
Support with minor comments
- "Of the locally built aircraft, twenty were completed by Zmaj; the Rogožarski plant did not produce any." - "only twenty" would make clear the gap between the intent and the actuality
- Added.
- "41 of the original 44 Hurricanes" - this had me going back to re-read how the total had got to 44 - could the 44 number be included in the previous section?
- Added.
- "The raising of Yugoslav Partisan-manned squadrons" - "raising" is technically fine, but would "creation" or read more naturally for the average reader?
- I get that, but I think raised it pretty standard for "creation" of units
- "In January and February 1945, much better coordination was achieved..." it's a long sentence...
- Split.
- "until it was withdrawn from service on 18 August 1952" - the previous section ends in 1951; is there any way of avoiding the superficial tension between the dates? Hchc2009 (talk) 18:37, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
- The sources don't necessarily conflict, the aircraft could have still been in service with other organisations, such as training schools. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 06:19, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
- Yep, that's why I say there's a "superficial tension". But the previous section is concluding the history of the aircraft in service, so you would expect a final sentence saying when it finished in service. The lead, btw, says "Hurricanes remained in service with the post-war Yugoslav Air Force until the early 1950s." - could you repeat that at the end of the "Yugoslav Air Force" section? Hchc2009 (talk) 06:49, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
- Done. Thanks for the review. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 09:29, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
- Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FAC/ar, and leave the {{featured article candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Sarastro1 (talk) 21:57, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.