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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted 20:25, 7 May 2007.

Kate Bush

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This has recently become a Good Article and I can't see there being much more needed for it to become a Featured Article. It seems to pass all the criteria. Epbr123 11:02, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose per:
    • Image:Kateivy.jpg is tagged fair use but of a living subject, in contravention of policy.
    • Unsourced commentary - "incredibly literate" and "technical ability is shown to full effect"
Addhoc 16:17, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The image and unsourced commentary have now been removed from the article. Epbr123 17:33, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, however there still appears to be a significant amount of unsourced commentary, for example "creative manifesto issued by Kate in response to criticisms" and "musical style was far more simple and direct". Addhoc 17:46, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Those two examples have now been removed. Epbr123 18:13, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - however there are few more areas that I would appreciate if you could review:
    • "perhaps prophesised the internet addiction that would surface by the end of the following decade"
    • "talking to their computers to the point of obsession"
Addhoc 19:09, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. A few stylistic comments:
  • <small> tags for the image captions are unnecessary, and makes it a little harder to read.
  • With the {{cite web}} references, you don't need the '|'; the reason there's 'publisher=' and 'author=' is to link data to certain parameters.
I'll provide a more thorough review later. CloudNine 19:27, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your comments. Those have now been corrected. Epbr123 20:08, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - I think the article needs more work to reach FA status. Some comments:
    • I'm not convinced that NNDB is a reliable source and it is heavily relied upon for biographical and album information. It says it is in "Beta" but not much else information is available. Who are its editors and what are their sources? As it stands, it is unacceptable.
    • The photo in the infobox is too small. If you must use it, it needs to be a fixed size so preferences don't resize it and thus pixalate it.
    • Stylistic but grammatically incorrect comma usage such as (please check for others):
      • "Her eclectic and meticulous musical style, and idiosyncratic and literary lyrics..."
      • "Because of her age, in the first two years of her contract, Bush did not begin working on an album, but instead continued her time at school."
    • Some use of passive voice where the subject of the sentence is relevant but omitted. Examples:
      • "Bush's talents as a singer/songwriter were brought to the attention of David Gilmour of Pink Floyd."
      • "Following the album's release, she was required to undertake heavy promotional work..."
    • This sounds like original research; I think you need a source: "In the past, stories of weight gain or mental instability have been disproven by Bush's periodic reappearances."
    • A general edit for tone is needed by a neutral party - there are too many adorations like "strong-willed Bush" and "lush orchestral arrangements".
    • General copyedit needed for grammar, as there are many incorrect and non-standards constructions.
--Mus Musculus (talk) 17:16, 23 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment struck; thanks for the speedy resolution! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:51, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support. I just have one bit of nitpicking: it's grammatically incorrect to place commas and periods outside quotation marks. I can fix all these myself, of course, so it isn't that big a deal. I recall there being many instances of POV tone when I first read the article, but it seems they've been removed by now. Nice work. As for the image, it would certainly help if a larger and clearer photo could be located, but the current one is fine otherwise. Another thing; I've browsed Gaffaweb a few times, and some of it appears to be posts from a very old forum of sorts. I'm unsure of whether these can be counted as credible information. On the other hand, the website contains many useful interviews, so I think it ought to be kept. --Jitterro 02:56, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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