Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Kennet and Avon Canal/archive1
This article provides facts and figures about the Canal, it's history and sections, supported by photographs and appropriate references.— Rod talk 21:26, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
- Comment. "History" section has no citations. "Today" section is stubby. Expand or merge with "History".--Yannismarou 15:08, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for the comment. I have added references for the history section and combined this with the canal today. — Rod talk 19:42, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose - while the information on the various installations is very detailed, the article as a whole is not comprehensive: wildlife conservation, tourism, and the restoration are all under-developed topics. (From a very quick google, it appears that Hungerford is an important wildlife site, but it is not even mentioned). Several topics that should be covered are absent: why was there a requirement for the canal? How was it funded? How was it used? Why did it close? A lottery grant from 1995 is mentioned: has this money been used? Yomanganitalk 09:56, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
- ResponseI have expanded the history section to cover why it was built, decline & restoration, and reintroduced the canal today section to cover leisure uses etc. I've also asked an expert to look at the wildlife aspects. I hope this goes some way to meeting your objections.— Rod talk 14:32, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
- It has improved, but I'll hold off giving my support until the wildlife aspects are addressed. It needs a copyedit now - I found several typos while reviewing it, and phrasing such as "The canal opened in 1810, with the opening of the Caen Hill Locks with some impressive engineering feats having been completed in the 16 years of construction..." is not an example of compelling prose. A couple of minor points (neither of which I'll base an objection on): the pillbox section seems out of place in the history now - it should either be in the chronology in the 1940s or at the end, and it would be interesting to have a map of the course of the canal. Yomanganitalk 14:57, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
- Response I've done some copyediting as you suggest and have now added more information about the wildlife and SSSIs. I've also reordered to put pillboxes in chronological order. Another user is currently working on a map. — Rod talk 17:19, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
- It is now far more comprehensive, but most of the new additions seem to be a wholesale lift from [1] which would seem to be a breach of copyright (see WP:COPY#Using_copyrighted_work_from_others). Yomanganitalk 23:22, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
- I have reworded the wildlife section to try to overcome this issue.— Rod talk 07:30, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
- It is now far more comprehensive, but most of the new additions seem to be a wholesale lift from [1] which would seem to be a breach of copyright (see WP:COPY#Using_copyrighted_work_from_others). Yomanganitalk 23:22, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
- Response I've done some copyediting as you suggest and have now added more information about the wildlife and SSSIs. I've also reordered to put pillboxes in chronological order. Another user is currently working on a map. — Rod talk 17:19, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
- It has improved, but I'll hold off giving my support until the wildlife aspects are addressed. It needs a copyedit now - I found several typos while reviewing it, and phrasing such as "The canal opened in 1810, with the opening of the Caen Hill Locks with some impressive engineering feats having been completed in the 16 years of construction..." is not an example of compelling prose. A couple of minor points (neither of which I'll base an objection on): the pillbox section seems out of place in the history now - it should either be in the chronology in the 1940s or at the end, and it would be interesting to have a map of the course of the canal. Yomanganitalk 14:57, 20 September 2006 (UTC)