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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted 16:57, 28 June 2007.

Liverpool F.C.

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(No biased Everton or Man Utd Supporters please)(Not meant horribly its just abide by Wikirules concerning this request)


I think, as do others, that this fits the FA criteria  ¢нαzα93  20:31, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Fixes needed It's a good article but these minor problems need fixing:
Fixes needed Looks promising - some style things. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:14, 19 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • In LEAD - first sentence could be split in two.
    • What "Liverpool Football Club are an English professional football club based in Liverpool."? Sounds fine to me. Or did you mean the second sentence? Buc 06:32, 19 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • They lead the way in terms of English League titles with eighteen.., why not "They have won the most English League titles with eighteen.." and make the sentence longer by saying how many more than no. 2 team.
  • Liverpool are a founding member.. - "were a founding member.." (past tense as it is already founded)
  • I'd make some mention of rivalry with Everton in the lead.
  • ...stadium. For the previous seven years the stadium had been used by Everton F.C. - I'd streamline this to "... stadium, vacated by Everton F.C. after a seven year tenancy." or something like it. The next two sentences are clunky too - try "The club had objected after Houlding, initially a leaseholder, had bought Anfield outrigth and raised the rent..."
  • The first post-war league season saw the club win their fifth league title, but this proved to be a false dawn, and was followed by a succession of mid-table finishes, and then relegation in 1954 - four clauses so split into 2 sentences.
  • He was aged 63 when.. - lose the "aged"
  • largely untouched since it's redevelopment in 1973 - lose the apostrophe
  • I'm not a fan of See also sections - both can be incorporated somewhere into the text and this bit removed.

Overall, these should be easily fixed and I can then support. The prose looks smoother further down the article (or maybe I'm just lazy). cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:34, 19 June 2007 (UTC) (a Spurs supporter)[reply]

  • Oppose—Very poorly written. Take the top.
    • "They have won the most English League titles with eighteen, their most recent success coming in 1990." I rest my case. Likewise, "They are third in terms of European Cup[2] wins with five,".
    • Hate the cross-reference in a lead: "They have also had success in the other cup competitions (see honours, below)."
    • "Liverpool were founded in 1892, playing at Anfield, where they remain to this day." Tension between playing and remaining. "To this day" is redundant.

I won't read further at this stage. Tony 08:08, 19 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

All issues have been addressed in some way Buc 06:16, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose - there are a couple unresolved issues from the peer reviews, namely:
    • The list of several songs of unclear notability in the Supporters section (You'll Never Walk Alone excepted).
Sorry, Club culture section (the equivalent section is named Supporters in several FA football articles, hence my mistake). Oldelpaso 09:19, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Calling the Liverpool Academy "highly commended" is POV unless it is qualified in some way.
    • There are still some areas requiring copyediting or rewriting, including but not limited to:
      • Liverpool F.C. were founded by John Houlding in 1892 to play in his vacant Anfield stadium vacated by Everton F.C. after a seven year tenancy. However, in 1891 Houlding, the leaseholder of Anfield, purchased the ground outright and proposed increasing the rent from £100 to £250 per year.[9] The Everton members objected, left Anfield and moved to Goodison Park. - This paragraph is chronologically backwards. vacant Anfield stadium vacated is jarring.
      • With Liverpool's 2006–07 season finished Rafa Benitez has pledged to mount a more consistent title challenge next year, and has already begun overhauling his squad. - This sentence conveys little in the way of useful information; all clubs and managers intend to do well in future seasons.
      • Check usage of "however" - on a number of occasions it is either redundant or misused.
    • The list of assistant managers seems rather minor information. Oldelpaso 08:45, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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