Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Meteorological history of Hurricane Michael/archive1

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The article was archived by Gog the Mild via FACBot (talk) 13 December 2020 [1].

Meteorological history of Hurricane Michael

Nominator(s): Noah^Talk 23:37, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This article is about Hurricane Michael's meteorological history. Keep in mind that this article contains some technical aspects due to its nature (too much for a main storm article); I have attempted to dumb them down to the best of my ability, but that was difficult for some items. Noah^Talk 23:37, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Images are freely licensed (t · c) buidhe 00:24, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Source review - spotchecks not done

The infobox says the Caymans were impacted, but I don't see that in the text

Removed it. Noah^Talk 01:00, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Which specific NWS documents are being copied vs just cited?

Nothing has been copied word for word from the source. Noah^Talk 01:00, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

So what does {{NWS}} refer to here? Nikkimaria (talk) 01:39, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The usage of the information contained in all these documents. Noah^Talk 01:55, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you're just using information, not copying content, the article should use citations but not an attribution template. Nikkimaria (talk) 19:11, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Removed it. Noah^Talk 20:56, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

FN24: don't see those initials at the source, and then Landsea is cited as Chris in the next ref

Removed the initials and changed to Christopher per the NHC staff page (changed this at the template). Noah^Talk 01:00, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

FN25: the lab is the publisher in this case, and why include location here when it isn't present in other refs?

Fixed at the same template as mentioned earlier. Noah^Talk 01:00, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

FN27 is incomplete

Filled it out completely. Noah^Talk 01:00, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, but it doesn't seem to match what's at the source link? Nikkimaria (talk) 01:39, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The current source link goes to a republishing of the original (archived version). Which one should be used? The first one or the current one? Noah^Talk 01:53, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Whichever one you originally consulted. Nikkimaria (talk) 19:11, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Okay... it should be fine as is then. Noah^Talk 20:56, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Date formatting is inconsistent

Fixed on one template and created a DMY style template for articles that have similar date formats. Noah^Talk 01:00, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

What makes Air-Worldwide a high-quality reliable source? Nikkimaria (talk) 16:08, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Air-Worldwide is a company that performs the same services as the AON company in terms of risk management and calculation of damage from storms. Esri, in prep, risk and insurance has been used by the state board of administration of Florida. Noah^Talk 01:53, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support, with the caveat that I reviewed the article prior to FAC, and identified any issues I had with the article. My only slight concern was whether the article should've been split in the first place (given that the main Michael article is still on the short side), but assuming that article will be expanded, then this individual MH article would be needed. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:35, 9 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support, well-written article. ~ Destroyer 🌀🌀 16:34, 10 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I do not believe we need an article on this, even with the main storm article expanded. The focus should be on the main storm article instead.--Jasper Deng (talk) 09:33, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. This article plus the main article on the hurricane add up to less than 7500 words, much of which is duplicated. That would not be a particularly long FA, so I see no reason for a separate article on the meteorological history yet. I am not going to oppose because I don't think there's consensus at FAC that "merge to main article" is a valid oppose reason, but I am disinclined to do a full review because I suspect a future merge is likely -- this is something that's happened at least once or twice in the past with small hurricane FAs. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 11:03, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I opened a merge discussion myself despite the standing moratorium as it shouldn't prevent us from improving articles. Merging the explanations as to how Michael did what it did would help people understand better. Noah^Talk 12:32, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Withdrawn by nominator.

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