Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Municipality of Strathfield/archive1
I've been working on this for a while (so self-nomination). I submitted it to peer review and Rd232 made some valuable comments (mainly that the corruption scandal was important, it needed a politics section, and needs a culture section) which I responded to. I'd like to put this forward to FAC now. - Ta bu shi da yu 04:19, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Object but all should be fixable:
(1) C in "Homebush council", "Strathfield Council" not standardised in capitalisation throughout the article (please explain if there's a specific reason for that; the reference about Australian English in Local Government Area is also confusing to me),(2)" for the elite and the rich" in intro sounds a bit non-encyclopedic;(3) are there any actual pictures of modern Strathfield? One historicla picture about a geographic area seems very limited. I know it's a tiny area with very limited population. Otherwise well-writtena and will support. JuntungWu 06:14, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)- Fixed the C in Homebush Council (thanks for pointing that out), I disagree with the comment about the elite and rich, as that is what it was at one point. Getting pictures is hard for me as I don't own a digital camera. I think we can list this on requests for images, however. As a side note: The Municipality of Strathfield is one of Sydney's largest municipalities :) Ta bu shi da yu 06:25, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Also the historical picture that you uploaded has a weird reference about "The picture is copyright and owned by State Library of NSW." but you marked it PD. Why? It sounds like it's out of copyright in Australia so it's probably released. I am just confused about this. JuntungWu 06:16, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)Okay. JuntungWu 06:32, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)- Actually, I didn't. However, the copyright is the State Libraries, though it is still publicdomain as our copyright in Australia lasts 50 years only. - Ta bu shi da yu 06:19, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Also, (4) there is a link about "For NSW state elections, the Municipality of Strathfield is in the State Electoral District of Strathfield". What about the federal one? In the sense that there's a quip about three electoral districts in the table but only one mention in the text. Does the municipality lie entirely inside a federal seat? JuntungWu 06:21, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- The state and federal boundaries are totally seperate. They don't relate to each other at all. - Ta bu shi da yu 06:25, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- have noted that it is in the federal electorate of Lowe. - Ta bu shi da yu 06:27, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- OK, I've added a synopsis of how the 3-tiered system of govt. in Australia works. - Ta bu shi da yu 07:26, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- The state and federal boundaries are totally seperate. They don't relate to each other at all. - Ta bu shi da yu 06:25, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Also, (4) there is a link about "For NSW state elections, the Municipality of Strathfield is in the State Electoral District of Strathfield". What about the federal one? In the sense that there's a quip about three electoral districts in the table but only one mention in the text. Does the municipality lie entirely inside a federal seat? JuntungWu 06:21, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Actually, I didn't. However, the copyright is the State Libraries, though it is still publicdomain as our copyright in Australia lasts 50 years only. - Ta bu shi da yu 06:19, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Okay I've crossed out (2). I've also created a stub on Alfred Tsang to remove a redlink. But there's still a lot of red links though. JuntungWu 09:56, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Yeah, I know :-) That's what why Wikipedia:Wikiproject Sydney was formed! - Ta bu shi da yu 11:30, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- I'm going to object to this, really because of one misgiving: way too large a proportion of this page is about the recent mayoral scandal, and the information about this scandal is not really integrated into the local politics section. We don't find out how this relates to local politics more generally, what party Alfred Tsang is from, etc. Another thing that worries me, though it plays no part in my objection, is how we decide what information belongs in the Municipality information and what belongs in the suburb of Strathfield.--XmarkX 13:33, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Hoooold on a second! How is the former mayor of Strathfield Council stepping down because of corruption allegations not a part of the local policitical scene? However, I understand your concerns of dividing the information between the suburb of Strathfield with the Municipality of Strathfield. It's confusing, I know, but the information I have added to this article has to do with Muncipality as a whole, and information that has to do with just the suburb will later be added to the Strathfield article. That's why I got rid of the redirect and added a substub as a place holder for the meantime. Any suggestions of how to seperate this in a clearer fashion would be highly appreciated! - Ta bu shi da yu 21:30, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- it's not that it's not local politics - it's just this page doesn't tell me anything about the local politically scene that is the backdrop to the scandal, which is what I would want to know from this article. Instead it just recaps information I have heard umpteen times from every Australian news source--XmarkX 05:02, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- I've attempted to update this with a bit of background information. Does this look good? - Ta bu shi da yu 06:46, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- The local politics in that local neighbourhood is probably not very notable beyond that scandal . Just a view. JuntungWu 06:32, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- I would agree.
There is no policitical system just for that neighbourhood. Incidently, I live in Strathfield :-) I should know. - Ta bu shi da yu 06:46, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)- Hmmm... I think I misunderstood you. Some of it was interesting. I added info that detailed how developers gave money to the Labor party to get them into power. - Ta bu shi da yu 07:26, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- I would agree.
- it's not that it's not local politics - it's just this page doesn't tell me anything about the local politically scene that is the backdrop to the scandal, which is what I would want to know from this article. Instead it just recaps information I have heard umpteen times from every Australian news source--XmarkX 05:02, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Hoooold on a second! How is the former mayor of Strathfield Council stepping down because of corruption allegations not a part of the local policitical scene? However, I understand your concerns of dividing the information between the suburb of Strathfield with the Municipality of Strathfield. It's confusing, I know, but the information I have added to this article has to do with Muncipality as a whole, and information that has to do with just the suburb will later be added to the Strathfield article. That's why I got rid of the redirect and added a substub as a place holder for the meantime. Any suggestions of how to seperate this in a clearer fashion would be highly appreciated! - Ta bu shi da yu 21:30, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Minor objection, though maybe it's just my unfamiliarity with Australian political entities. I found it very confusing to figure out how the 'suburbs' fit into the municipality. Maybe a close-up map showing the boundaries of the suburbs would help. --SPUI (talk) 13:22, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Ah... that could be... interesting. I can't find public domain images that can do this, and I'm no good at map drawing! - Ta bu shi da yu 14:15, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)