Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/No. 1 Wing RAAF/archive1
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The article was promoted by Karanacs 17:39, 2 March 2010 [1].
No. 1 Wing RAAF (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Nominator(s): Nick-D (talk) 05:34, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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This article on the best-known Royal Australian Air Force fighter wing of World War II has passed a Military History Wikiproject A class review, and I think that it may now meet the FA critera. While the article is focused on the unit, it includes special guest appearances from Winston Churchill, Douglas MacArthur and several senior Australian politicians, all of whom played significant roles in its history. Several editors have contributed to the article's development, and I would like to acknowledge in particular the contributions made by Ian Rose, and Auntieruth55 and the excellent comments provided by the A class reviewers. Nick-D (talk) 05:34, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments. No dab links or dead external links. Alt text good, except for the map, where the alt text mostly duplicates the caption. The alt text there should provide the main points in the map that you would like the reader to know, such as the location of important places. See WP:ALT#Maps. Ucucha 17:28, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for that. I think that the caption is in line with the second example at WP:ALT#Maps - the only important geographic locations are Darwin and the airfields, which are mentioned in the alt text. Could you please suggest how this could be improved? Nick-D (talk) 22:04, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- They are mentioned, but you don't say where they are. I think it should be something like: "Darwin is in the middle of the map, with sea to the north and west. A large island is to the north. Important airstrips are in place A, place B, and place C." Ucucha 22:14, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- OK, how's this? Nick-D (talk) 22:30, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Good, thanks! You can probably drop the first sentence of the alt text now, as it largely duplicates the caption. Ucucha 22:32, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- OK, how's this? Nick-D (talk) 22:30, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- They are mentioned, but you don't say where they are. I think it should be something like: "Darwin is in the middle of the map, with sea to the north and west. A large island is to the north. Important airstrips are in place A, place B, and place C." Ucucha 22:14, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for that. I think that the caption is in line with the second example at WP:ALT#Maps - the only important geographic locations are Darwin and the airfields, which are mentioned in the alt text. Could you please suggest how this could be improved? Nick-D (talk) 22:04, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Support -- my contribution that Nick kindly acknowledges amounts to only a few sentences so I think I'm being pretty objective when I declare my support here, as I did in the article's MilHist ACR. The structure, detail, referencing, and illustrations are all excellent. Couple of things:
- Could you confirm Walters commanded 5SFTS after No. 1 Wing (probably best check in the relevant Units of the RAAF volume) as two sources I have suggest he went to No. 72 Wing next.
- Vol. 8 (Training Units) states that he commanded 5SFTS from 30 June until an unspecified day in July (p. 108) Nick-D (talk) 06:17, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- My only other suggestion is that along with Watt, you could drop a few other notable names involved in the wing's early history, and where they came from, so as to explain more of the formation's pedigree (and, by implication, purpose), i.e. Henry Petre (CO 5Sqn, after having led the Mesopotamian Half Flight in the Middle East), Roy Phillipps (CO 6Sqn, veteran ace from 2Sqn in France), Bill Anderson (CO 7Sqn, previously from 3Sqn), and Harry Cobby (5Sqn instructor who led the ANZAC Day fly-past you mention, having been the AFC's leading ace). This offers a bit more balance compared to the detailed exposition on its WWII history. There may be a few more names to drop from WWII as well, such as Adrian Goldsmith. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 06:06, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I'll see what I can do. A problem though is that a lot of the names you'd recognise as being notable aren't familiar to me ;) Nick-D (talk) 06:17, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I haven't been able to find a source which states that the 1st Training Wing's COs and instructors were picked for their experience, even though this appears to have been the case. Nick-D (talk) 05:54, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I'll see what I can do. A problem though is that a lot of the names you'd recognise as being notable aren't familiar to me ;) Nick-D (talk) 06:17, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Could you confirm Walters commanded 5SFTS after No. 1 Wing (probably best check in the relevant Units of the RAAF volume) as two sources I have suggest he went to No. 72 Wing next.
- Comments - sources look okay, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 17:37, 23 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for that Nick-D (talk) 07:06, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Support: I couldn't find anything to pick fault with, so I'm happy to offer my support. Well done. — AustralianRupert (talk) 12:02, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you Nick-D (talk) 07:14, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Support: fine, comprehensive article.--Grahame (talk) 01:03, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks Nick-D (talk) 05:54, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Such is the depth of my ignorance, I didn't even know Oz had been bombed. A n excellent article Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:37, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks Nick-D (talk) 06:23, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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