Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Otto Hahn/archive1

Otto Hahn

Featured article candidates/Otto Hahn/archive1

Nominator(s): Hawkeye7 (discuss) 04:59, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This article is about Otto Hahn, the German chemist who was awarded the 1944 Nobel Prize in Chemistry for the discovery of nuclear fission. Today Hahn is something of a divisive figure. A century ago, there was much less of a distinction between chemistry and physics. Hahn was involved early in the chemistry of radioactive substances. Their presence could be detected from their radioactivity, and their unique half lives. Unfortunately, most of the new elements he discovered turned out to be isotopes, a concept that had not been invented when he began. He also had to deal with a lot of disapproval from more traditional chemists, for whom chemistry involved substances you could see, and smell and taste. Early on he formed a professional relationship with a physicist, Lise Meitner. Among his generation, he was regarded as progressive in his attitudes towards women, even a feminist. But women like Meitner still considered him a male chauvinist pig, and their historians have been much less reticent about publicly calling him one. After World War II, his cause was to resurrect the reputation of German science, which had been tarnished (to say the least) in the Nazi period. In this role, he sought publicity and downplayed uncomfortable truths. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 04:59, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Image review

File:Otto_Hahn_1970.jpg: where is that licensing coming from?
Image was donated by the Dutch national archive. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:19, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is there UTRS or other confirmation of the licensing? Nikkimaria (talk) 04:38, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
See Commons:Nationaal Archief for details. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 05:19, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
File:William_Ramsay.jpg: source link is dead, needs a US tag
Added URAA and archive link. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:19, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
File:Ernest_Rutherford_1905.jpg: source link is dead
Dead. Unable to locate in archive. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:19, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can the licensing be otherwise confirmed? Nikkimaria (talk) 04:38, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I found the book on the Internet Archive, and can confirm it is on p. 132
File:Otto_Hahn_und_Lise_Meitner.jpg: what is the author's date of death?
Not known. Otto Hahn had the negative, and it was published in his memoirs in 1966. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:19, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In that case tagging will need to be changed. Nikkimaria (talk) 04:38, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
File:Berliner_Physiker_u_Chemiker_1920.jpg: when and where was this first published and what is the author's date of death?
Not known. Otto Hahn published in his memoirs in 1966, so he had a copy, but other copies exist. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:19, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In that case tagging will need to be changed. Nikkimaria (talk) 04:38, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
File:Ottohahn1915.jpg: when and where was this first published and what is its status in country of origin?
Not known when it was published. (Probably Hahn in 1966 again) Donated to Max Planck Society, who released it. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:19, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Released it under what license? Nikkimaria (talk) 04:38, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
File:Otto_Hahn_Nobelpreis_1945-a.jpg needs a US tag
Not sure what tag applies. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:19, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
File:Edith_and_Otto_Hahn,_1959.jpg: the uploader has a large number of files deleted for copyright-related issues - why are they believed to be able to license this?
No idea. I can remove it. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:19, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
File:Hahnfch.jpg is tagged as being not PD.
Not attached to this one either. Under review on Commons and will remove if Commons decides to delete. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:19, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nikkimaria (talk) 04:58, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

LittleLazyLass

This is just a flyby, but I really think could do with more organization. Currently it had a whole nineteen major top level sections and zero subsections. A quick look at other FA biographies within the Science and Academia subject area doesn't seem to indicate this is a standard I'm not aware of. Some basic level of consolidation with his scientific advances in one section, personal life in another, and the Nobel Prize could probably make a section with his other honours seems doable and would make a big difference. Failing that even rudimentary sorting the events into subsections by time period would be an improvement of being bombarded with everything separate. LittleLazyLass (Talk | Contributions) 20:33, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You're quite correct; there is no standard. There are 33 featured article biographies of physicists and chemists, of which I brought 23 of them to featured. The article is written in chronological order and follows the layout guideline in Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Layout. I will consider your proposal. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:29, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]