Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Penticton Regional Airport/archive2
- The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The article was not promoted by User:Ian Rose 10:14, 13 February 2013 [1].
I am nominating this for featured article because I believe it meets the criteria following my first nomination. TBrandley (what's up) 15:37, 6 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- The issues with the map still remain - it doesn't show what communities it serves, nor what other airports are nearby. Both of these are mentioned in the text, but maps are a case where a picture really is worth a thousand words. Adam Cuerden (talk) 17:56, 6 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- I would like to create a map, but I am currently not aware of how to. I will try to get some ideas together. TBrandley (what's up) 00:15, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, I don't think the FA nominator has to do everything, but I think it'd help the article a lot if somebody did it. Do we still have an active graphics lab? We used to 5 years ago, but... Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:17, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Creating a basic map of a modern locality is pretty easy: go to Open Street map (link), size the map to whatever works best, take a screenshot, paste it into your preferred image editor (MS Paint works fine), crop it and mark it up as you see fit, save it as a JPEG file or similar and then upload the results to Wikicommons under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 license (CC-BY-SA). I've just had a go at creating an example File:Penticton Regional Airport location - initial version.jpg (which I think also partially answers the question of why Kelowna International Airport is more popular, given that it's next to the main town). You may want to use this map, but I imagine that you could make a much better one given that you have knowledge of the local area while I have none whatsoever. Nick-D (talk) 10:42, 8 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, I don't think the FA nominator has to do everything, but I think it'd help the article a lot if somebody did it. Do we still have an active graphics lab? We used to 5 years ago, but... Adam Cuerden (talk) 00:17, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- I would like to create a map, but I am currently not aware of how to. I will try to get some ideas together. TBrandley (what's up) 00:15, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Sorry, but this article still falls short of FA standards on the grounds of completeness and prose.
- In regards to completeness, the article's content isn't up to date. It still includes mentions of 'as of 2012', and the air movements data isn't the most recent which is available from Statistics Canada's website (I found the 2011 air movements figures in 5 minutes [2], and there seems to be tons more statistical data on the airport in this report and probably elsewhere on the Stats Canada website which could be included - it would be really easy to develop a graph of the historical trend in air movements, for instance, and it would be interesting to know why over 600 military flights a year pass through this airport each year, making it one of the most Canadian military's most frequently used civil airfields by my reading of the report). In light of this and the issues which came up in the previous FAC, I'm afraid that I'm not convinced that this article is comprehensive.
- In regards to prose, the article still doesn't read well. For instance, the paragraph on the Indian band's protests starts with 'Controversy has occurred over airport ownership before.', another paragraph starts with 'The Penticton Flying Club operates at the airport, which is a club where children receive a flight in an airplane with the pilot, and learn about the airplanes themselves', some wording is unclear (eg "Two of the aircraft's eighteen occupants, both crew members, were injured."), and some sections confuse the airport with the airlines who operate out of it (eg, "there has also been consideration for the airport to provide direct flights to the Montréal–Pierre Elliott Trudeau International Airport provided by Air Canada." - the airlines provide flights, not the airport which serves as their start/end point). Nick-D (talk) 10:36, 8 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I would like to thank everyone for their comments, they will help improve the article significantly. But for now, as per the above, I now understand a featured article nomination at this time is not appropriate due to concerns over prose and comprehensiveness. I plan on performing basic copyedits and digging deeper for information within a couple of weeks using advanced search engines such as Google News Archive, which I didn't think of when I initially started working on the page. Then, after that and perhaps a peer review, I will nominate the article again. Again, thanks for the comments, but I withdraw this nomination for now. TBrandley (what's up) 21:26, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Closing note: This candidate has been archived, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FAC/ar, and leave the {{featured article candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Ian Rose (talk) 15:00, 13 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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