Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Sandy Koufax
I did the major rewrite of this article so it might be considered a self-nom, but there have been many major contributions by others since then, so I don't feel to bad by finally nominating it. It meets all of the criteria of a feature. It sites its sources and all the facts appear to be correct. Gorrister 13:24, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
- Support: The only thing that concerns me is that there is only one reference. Are there any other possible sources that could be used here? Great article. --Spangineer ∞ 20:07, May 23, 2005 (UTC)
- Object, based on the above concern. This is more like a summary of Leavy's (excellent) book, the source of most if not all the game sequences, anecdotes, and quotes. To his credit, the nominator freely acknowledges this, but such an article would never "fly" in a print encyclopedia. Sfahey 04:34, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
- Several of the external links were used for some of the stasticical information, but I left them under external links instead of moving them to references. When doing the actual rewrite, I used his biography mostly. Gorrister 01:22, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
- Could a Sports Almanac be used to verify those statistics, and then added to the references section? Spangineer ∞ 10:41, May 24, 2005 (UTC)
- I will update the page with all of the references that I used and then we will see if that resolves this issue. Gorrister 11:21, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:Cite_sources#Web_sites_and_articles_.28not_from_periodicals.29 for the proper way to cite online sources. Spangineer ∞ 17:23, May 24, 2005 (UTC)
- Support. Very thorough, and very interesting, article on a famous sporting figure. Deserves FA status. Harro5 02:55, May 24, 2005 (UTC)
- Comment - not sure if there's a relevant project dictating colors for the infobox, but if not, why not use "Dodger blue" instead of the random teal? - Bryan is Bantman 03:45, May 26, 2005 (UTC)
- Somebody is trying to get all the infoboxes standardized. Besides, the infobox is a template that is used for all baseball players (or at least the ones I've gotten to). Gorrister 10:14, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
- Conditional support if you can please reference the direct quotes. I would like to see the use of Template:Ref and Template:Note, but inline citations would be OK. - Ta bu shi da yu 03:55, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
- I think I've taken care of this. I only used four direct quotes - and they were actual quotes that Leavy quoted - and made notes of them. Let me know if this satisfies your conditional support.Gorrister 13:40, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
- Conditional support. Please eliminate the one and two sentence paragraphs. They should either be expanded or merged into related material. They basically highlight areas of poor flow of the prose and/or incomplete information. The rest is very good, but a few suggestions (not further objections): The lead is pretty short. Wikipedia:Lead section calls for 2-3 paragraphs, but the lead section seems to be very well done as a summary, so I guess we could let that go if there are not important things missing from it. Also the references are pretty sparse. Do you have access to any more good ones to support the material and add some more citations? Finally, it is mentioned his birth name is not Koufax. Did he legally change his name to that, and if so, when? - Taxman Talk 20:49, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)
- I think I got rid of all the 1-2 sentence paragraphs (by merging, not expansion). Also, regarding the name, did you want more details than what is in the second paragraph of the "pre-professional career" section, which says "Although Irving never legally adopted Koufax, Sandy always referred to Irving as his father and took on his last name". I'm not sure what to add to the lead; adding a paragraph about his childhood seems unnecessary, and I'm not sure if there are other details that could be added that would make sense and flow with what is already there. --Spangineer (háblame) 19:26, Jun 6, 2005 (UTC)