Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/U.S. Route 34 in Iowa/archive1
- The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The article was archived by Gog the Mild via FACBot (talk) 10 August 2021 [1].
- Nominator(s): –Fredddie™ 18:28, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
This article is my finest highway article to date. It talks about changing highway policy over the years and how that affected the highway as it is today. It even initiated the creation of a federal law regarding handling Native American remains found during highway construction. –Fredddie™ 18:28, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
- Image licensing looks OK (t · c) buidhe 19:33, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
Drive by comment
editJust curious, is there a reason why we use "U.S." throughout the article rather than "US"? Since the standard abbreviation for US Highways is "US #", it looks like we mix abbreviation types, which goes against MOS:US. Thrakkx (talk) 01:16, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
- This is a project-wide issue that's bigger than this one article. Personally, I prefer U.S. to US, so I could make those changes if required. If you notice, U.S. is always used as "U.S. Highway X", while US is always "US X". So at least that's consistent. –Fredddie™ 02:44, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
- After consulting with another editor on Discord, I decided to change the article to use U.S. –Fredddie™ 03:36, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
- Apologies, I didn't intend for you to make any changes; just wanted to know if the WikiProject dictated this notation. Thrakkx (talk) 23:03, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
- WP:USSH is the relevant guideline here. It was created after a contentious ArbCom case about 15 years ago; a couple of the editors who argued in that case are still around. The abbreviations were added about 5 years ago as a matter of turning a de facto practice into de jure. Could it be updated? Probably, but that's another discussion. –Fredddie™ 01:30, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
- Just a comment, but the standard abbreviation for a United States Numbered Highway as used by the vast majority of state departments of transportation omits the periods. (I think only one uses the periods in their press materials.) The last two editions of The Chicago Manual of Style also omit periods in the abbreviated name of such highways. We've had discussions about following CMOS to omit the periods in the full name without any consensus at revising WP:USSH to retitle the articles, and for many states, the full name follows the article title. The best sources on styling seem to dictate reversing this change. Imzadi 1979 → 02:23, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
- You and I have butted heads on this over the years and I maintain that we are not beholden to the CMOS, only our own MoS. The original comment was about consistency, which is the heart of MOS:US, and that's what I'm trying to achieve here. –Fredddie™ 09:52, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
- Just a comment, but the standard abbreviation for a United States Numbered Highway as used by the vast majority of state departments of transportation omits the periods. (I think only one uses the periods in their press materials.) The last two editions of The Chicago Manual of Style also omit periods in the abbreviated name of such highways. We've had discussions about following CMOS to omit the periods in the full name without any consensus at revising WP:USSH to retitle the articles, and for many states, the full name follows the article title. The best sources on styling seem to dictate reversing this change. Imzadi 1979 → 02:23, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
- WP:USSH is the relevant guideline here. It was created after a contentious ArbCom case about 15 years ago; a couple of the editors who argued in that case are still around. The abbreviations were added about 5 years ago as a matter of turning a de facto practice into de jure. Could it be updated? Probably, but that's another discussion. –Fredddie™ 01:30, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
- Apologies, I didn't intend for you to make any changes; just wanted to know if the WikiProject dictated this notation. Thrakkx (talk) 23:03, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
- After consulting with another editor on Discord, I decided to change the article to use U.S. –Fredddie™ 03:36, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
While I'm here, I went ahead and reviewed the article for accessibility, and I see no issues. Thrakkx (talk) 23:08, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
Coordinator comment
editThis article has been up for two weeks and has yet to attract a general review. It could do with more interest over the next week or so or the nomination is liable to be archived. Gog the Mild (talk) 22:11, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
- Three weeks in and not a hint of a consensus to promote forming, so I am archiving this nomination. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:45, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
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