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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted 18:12, 25 August 2007.

Uranus

This page has gone through extensive revisions since acheiving GA status and I think it's ready for FA consideration. Serendi^podous 09:46, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Support - I passed this at GA and it has been nicely kneaded, massaged and moulded since then.cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:44, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment, please remove all caps per MOS:CAPS#All caps. Also see WP:MOSNUM regarding linking of month-day combos so user date preferences will work. There are instances of incorrect dashes; example, and temperatures 110-170 K. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:40, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed, I think. I'm not sure what you're asking as regards dates; they seem properly linked according to your manual page. Serendi^podous 16:05, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There still seems to be confusion between mdash, ndash, hyphen, and the minus sign. Some of the extended numbers get split up by linewrap and could benefit from the nowrap template. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:35, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK. That should do it. Tell me if there's any I missed. I'm taking a tea break. Serendi^podous 17:29, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Still some confusion—minus sign info here (minus sign is not a hyphen). SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:07, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think I fixed it Serendi^podous 10:24, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose—MOS breaches and 1a. Here are random samples. Please engage one or more unfamiliar editors to run through the whole text.
MOS. Please fix the infobox. Common mathematical symbols need to be spaced on both sides (except for minus signs). Why are spaces used to separate every three digits in the decimal parts of values? On the integral side, sometimes commas are used and sometimes no separators are used. "Day", being fully spelt out, should be pluralised where appropriate. The distances are averages, are they? Some units are converted into imperial equivalents, others not (consider not converting, but it must be consistent). Check that a logical, reasonable consistency pertains WRT precision throughout the infoblot.
1a: "Image showing Uranus, its bands, rings and moons clearly outlining its sideways pose". I presume that "pose" is the standard term. The clause is ambiguous. "The period of Uranus's orbit (it's year) is roughly 84 Earth years long"—ouch; remove apostrophe and "long".

Tony 14:41, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The space separators to the right of the decimal appear to come from ISO 31-0. It's been applied to all of the Solar System planet articles by an unknown editor. — RJH (talk) 16:34, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've raised this issue at MOSNUM talk.

More examples of why a copy-edit is required throughout. It's not a long job, but better done by someone unfamiliar with the article:

Sorry to harp on about the infoblot: "km" etc are linked on third appearance, not first. Unsure that kilometres and miles are so little known as to require linking: AU, yes. The K for Kelvin is linked three times in a row. See MOS on linking. The symbols are still unspaced ...
"far less massive than either Jupiter and Saturn"—"or".
Does "ices" have to be in quotes?
"possesses a ring system"—oh, just "has". Be plain.
"Uranus is unique though in that it, its moons"—Better "However, Uranus is ...".
Do the quaint images of archery target and hands of a clock add anything? Hard to imagine.
"it found it"—There's a lot of "it" in the text. Rephrase the sentence.
"twelve"—MOS says normally digits for > nine.
"place."—MOS says final punctuation after the quotes. Please fix all of them.
Curly double quotes, yet straight apostrophes?
"The name Georgium Sidus or "the Georgian" was still used infrequently (by the British alone) thereafter."—"Still" and "thereafter"?
To be fussy, a comma is required after the parenthesis: "The historically incorrect pronunciation [jʊˈɹeɪ.nəs], with stress on the second syllable and a "long a" (ūrānŭs) has become very common."
"Uranus's"—Hmmm, nicer as the blah of Uranus". Tony 00:18, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose As someone unfamiliar with the article, I took Tony's suggestion and began a copy edit. It's not a long job, but a few hours on the first few sections, I can say it's not a short one either. When I compare it to the planets articles that have been featured, I think the article is still in the "getting there" stage. Flying Jazz 05:31, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment about a technical aspect of the display. The section on the structure of the atmosphere describes the "H⁺₃ ion". This appearance looks rather odd to me. I went to the original reference (an on-line pdf) to confirm that it wasn't supposed to be a tritium ion. Is there any way of displaying the "+" superscript directly above the "3" subscript? Axl 19:40, 15 August 2007 (UTC) I also see that the "Magnetic field" section describes "H₂⁺ ions". Axl 19:44, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Serendi^podous 07:45, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Er, you only fixed one of the entries. There is another one. ;-) Axl 20:09, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I fixed another one. Serendi^podous 21:14, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Axl 21:45, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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