Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Willa Cather/archive1
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The article was archived by Ian Rose via FACBot (talk) 9 May 2021 [1].
- Nominator(s): Urve (talk) 22:48, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
This article is about Willa Cather, an author who lived with her domestic partner, Edith Lewis, for a number of years in the twentieth century. She is best remembered for her plains novels, making Nebraska visible to the world, though she also wrote historical novels in France and the American Southwest. She won a Pulitzer Prize in literature for her World War One novel, One of Ours. Urve (talk) 22:48, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
- Image review—pass
- File:Willa Cather ca. 1912 wearing necklace from Sarah Orne Jewett.jpg If it was created circa 1912, when was it published? Source link is dead
- File:Willa Cather in Paris, 1920.jpg same issue but there's no source link.
- File:Edith Lewis .jpg passport photos are not inherently public domain[2] and they are not counted as published when issued, as they are not publicly distributed.
- File:Isabelle McClung, an unidentified man, and Willa Cather aboard the SS Westernland, 1902.jpg When was this first published? How do we know it's PD?
- For US copyright the publication date is more important than the creation date for knowing when something goes out of copyright. (t · c) buidhe 23:11, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
- Removed. I misunderstood the difference between publication and creation. (Thought publication was a term of art that referred to creation as well.) I will write to the Cather archives and seek clarification. Urve (talk) 23:26, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
- Passed based on what's in the article. Please ping if you add any images and/or clarify the copyright status of those above. (t · c) buidhe 18:02, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
- Removed. I misunderstood the difference between publication and creation. (Thought publication was a term of art that referred to creation as well.) I will write to the Cather archives and seek clarification. Urve (talk) 23:26, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
Source review - spotchecks not done. Version reviewed.
- Infobox says she was born in Gore, text says near Gore - which is correct?
- FN1 is malformatted
- FN6: The Mower's Tree is the work title, but the specific article being cited has its own titled, plus a date that is missing from the citation
- Be consistent in when you include retrieval date
- FN17 is missing date
- Willa Cather Archive is the website, not part of titles, and be consistent in whether you include publisher with these
- Be consistent in whether you use title or sentence case for work titles
- Be consistent in when you include publication location
- FN23: given work title is a publisher. Check for other issues of this type.
- FN21 is missing publisher. Ditto FN102, check for others
- Fn35: are you citing the actual letter, or the introduction? The citation is unclear
- Fn36: Home Monthly should be italicized. Ditto Red Cloud Chief in FN29, check for others
- FN37 has the title plural, and I don't see that author credit there?
- Don't mix templated and untemplated citations
Stopping for now and oppose - lots of formatting cleanup needed, please check throughout. Happy to revisit once that's been done. Nikkimaria (talk) 18:13, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot, I appreciate it. Citation is what I am weakest at; usually use the preformed gadget, but as we can see, that leaves a lot to be desired. It will take a while to go through this so I will start working when I can. (I wanted to eventually switch to the shortened footnote system because of ease eventually, and I think this is a good time to do so.) Urve (talk) 06:58, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
Comments from Aoba47
editI am leaving this up as a placeholder. I will leave a review once Nikkimaria's comments are addressed. I have not worked on this type of article in the past, but I have very fond memories of Willa Cather as I studied Death Comes for the Archbishop for one of my graduate-level English courses and wrote a paper on one of its characters (Magdalena). I hope that I can help with this article as I am interesting in reading it and learning more about Cather. Aoba47 (talk) 18:49, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
Comments from Buidhe
editI just noticed that the article states "Cather's lifelong conservative politics" in wikivoice with a note "Not all critics see her 1930s political views as conservative"—this is not acceptable as it likely distorts NPOV. If Cather's audience perceived her as conservative, that should be stated but maybe more of the nuances can be covered in the text. It also raises the question, conservative how? (t · c) buidhe 02:07, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- There's a special distinction here because of her earlier life and ~1940 politics (letter about Mussolini in 1938 for example; some sources discuss this but I need to check again). Should be repaired when available. Urve (talk) 03:22, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
Request to close
editI am moving and for unrelated reasons won't have access to most of the sources used in the article for around a month. That seems unfair to those who are offering to review. Source restoration will take a while too while I go back and reverify everything. (Last I checked it was fine: Acocella is the only major issue, but she is not sourced for her now-fringe views.) Very sorry for the total waste of time for everyone else. Requesting to close whenever someone has a chance. Urve (talk) 03:22, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- Closing note: This candidate has been withdrawn, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FAC/ar, and leave the {{featured article candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Ian Rose (talk) 05:10, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
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