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The list was promoted by Hey man im josh via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 16 August 2024 (UTC) [1].[reply]

1956 Winter Olympics medal table

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Nominator(s): Arconning (talk) 03:02, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A short list compared to my other FLC, this is a list about the medals earned by nations that competed at the 1956 Winter Olympics. Waiting for some comments, and etc etc! Arconning (talk) 03:02, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • In the image caption, I believe there is a word missing in "Toni Sailer of Austria won the gold medals at the 1956 Winter Olympics"
  • "Overall, athletes from 13 nations received one medal" => "Overall, athletes from 13 nations received at least one medal" (unless literally every medal winner only won one)
  • "At their debut, athletes from the Soviet Union won" => "At their first Winter Olympics, athletes from the Soviet Union won"
  • "The Soviet Union's team won their nation's first Olympic gold medal" - they'd never won a gold in the summer? I think this sentence and the one after it are confusing as it's unclear if you mean these countries won their first Winter Olympic medals specifically or they won their first Olympic medals period and it just happened to occur at the winter games
  • That's what I got :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:51, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @ChrisTheDude I believe I'm done. :) Arconning (talk) 13:41, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @ChrisTheDude Pinging again. :) Arconning (talk) 07:00, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:32, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

MrLinkinPark333 verification/copyvio check

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  • "A total of 821 athletes from 32 nations participated in 24 events in 4 sports across 8 disciplines." - The sentence needs to be rewritten a bit to pass WP:LIMITED as it's too similar to the Olympics flying start source in terms of word order.
  • The number of athletes differs between the sources. Olympics factsheet says 821. However, Olympics flying start says 923 total but the math doesn't add up there as 132+751=883. Which of these sources is correct?
  • "while athletes from Finland came third with 3 gold medals and 7 medals overall." - The CBC source sorts the countries by the total number of medals, not gold medals. Therefore, third would be Sweden with 10 overall and 2 gold medals.
  • "won their nation's first Winter Olympic gold medal and Winter Olympic medal of any color" - the sentence sounds like first Winter Olympic medal ever was a gold medal. However, this isn't the case as the first Winter Olympic medal for Soviet Union was bronze. Therefore, the sentence could be rewritten to something like "won their nation's first Winter Olympic medals in every color"
  • "all three gold medals available in the men's alpine skiing events" - needs a bit rewording to avoid similar phrasing with The Los Angeles Times.
  • "winning four medals with one gold, two silvers, and one bronze." - extra source needed here as CBC does not specify which medals Jernberg won, only that he won 4.
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  • "where a nation is an entity represented by a National Olympic Committee (NOC)" - This part can be removed as Sergeyev does not mention a NOC.
  • "The number of silver medals is taken into consideration next and then the number of bronze medals." - This sentence was added in 2004, while Sergeyev's source is from 2014. Template:Backwards copy should be added to the talk page so this article doesn't get flagged as a copyvio of Sergeyev.
  • Is the entire 30+ pages being used for the Contemporary European History source to verify "hesitation by the International Olympic Committee to recognize both National Olympic Committees formed by each nation"? If not, specific page/pages are needed instead.
  • Also, it should be |issue=4 not |edition=4 for Contemporary European History. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:15, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @MrLinkinPark333 I've removed the Olympics flying start source, I've also changed the medal table header. For the third comment, I don't see how it is an issue to use the CBC source as the article uses the IOC's method of arranging medal tables, it's sourcing the medal count for the nations? Other than that, I believe I'm done with the rest of your comments. :) Arconning (talk) 07:58, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    In regards to CBC, I'm confused in the wording of sentences it is cited for. The first sentence starts out with "athletes from the Soviet Union won the most medals overall". Therefore, I'd assume that the next sentence would follow the same format: Austria 2nd with 11 medals (4 gold) and Sweden 3rd with 10 medals (2 gold). If the sentences are supposed to be ordered as gold first then total, then I think the Soviet Union part could be reordered with 7 gold medals first then 16 total medals. MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 17:16, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @MrLinkinPark333 I have done this. Arconning (talk) 01:55, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Just a few more points left:
    • "where a nation is an entity represented by a NOC." - neither source mentions a NOC. This quoted part could be removed.
    • The first Unified team was at the 1956 Winter Olympics, not 1952 Summer Olympics. Per Olympia, only the FRG competed in 1952 even though "titularly a combined German team".
    • "and the hesitation by the International Olympic Committee to recognize both National Olympic Committees" - This isn't exactly correct. FRG was recognized in 1950 while GDR was recognized in 1955 per Olympia. This would need rewritten as they started to compete as an Unified team after both NOCs were recognized.
    MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 23:11, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @MrLinkinPark333 Done. Arconning (talk) 06:59, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Still needs correction on when the first Unified Team competed per above.
    • "National Olympic Committee of the GDR (East Germany) would be recognized if both nations competed in the same team at the Olympics" - Might need a little bit of rewording with the bolded part to pass WP:LIMITED
    MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 17:13, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @MrLinkinPark333 Done. :) Arconning (talk) 06:42, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Support - thank you for the changes. MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 01:21, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey man im josh

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  • Source review: Passed
    • Reliable enough for the information being cited
    • Consistent date formatting
    • Consistent and proper reference formatting
    • Appropriate wikilinks where applicable
    • Spot checks on sources match what they are being cited for

Feedback:

  • Ref 2 – It should be "Athletes, Medals & Results"
  • Ref 4 – It's often annoying for me to tell whether I should be using CBC or CBC Sports, but I think CBC Sports is a better choice for this ref, given the author is listed as CBC Sports
  • Ref 11 – The article requires a subscription or free trial in order to view the rest of the article. Please add the url-access parameter to the ref and specify it
  • Ref 12 – Title in reference doesn't match the title on the page or the title when the page's tab is hovered over. Seems to have had some slight editorialization.

That's what I've got. Please ping me when you reply. Hey man im josh (talk)

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