Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/1992 Winter Olympics medal table/archive1

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The list was promoted by The Rambling Man 16:17, 16 August 2010 [1].

1992 Winter Olympics medal table

Featured list candidates/1992 Winter Olympics medal table/archive1

Nominator(s): so nia^♫♪ and Courcelles (talk) 05:18, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

18 years later, and I still remember those crystal medals, and wondering how many of the athletes actually managed to get them home. The answer to that question isn't found here, but Sonia and I hope you enjoy it nonetheless. Courcelles (talk) 05:18, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment—no dab links, no dead external links. Ucucha 06:35, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support I tried and tried, but could not find anything in the list itself to nitpick. The lead is well-written, and the medal counts are verified correctly against the source. My only comment relates to the navigation template, Template:Olympic games medal table—the colored text is a bit hard to read (especially "medalists", in yellow). Dabomb87 (talk) 20:05, 1 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, and I imagine that template is copying the five colours of the Olympic rings. If it's an issue, I think it would need to be brought up at WT:OLY, as I'm not sure what would be better, and also be visible on a blue background. Courcelles (talk) 20:41, 1 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 17:50, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

I'd look at the 1988 lead for a good way of putting the sports/disciplines etc.
- Changed. Courcelles (talk)
You use country and NOC interchangeably in this lead, is that your intention?
- I think we've been fairly careful in using the right term- there were four non-country NOC participants at Albertville, but only the Unified Team won any medals. The other 19 medal winners are best referred to as nations or countries. Courcelles (talk)
"New Zealander Annelise Coberger, silver medalist in the slalom, in addition to winning her nation's first medal, became t..." one too many run-on clauses for me here.
- Rewritten entirely. Courcelles (talk)
"won their country's first Winter Olympic medals in Albertville" reads poorly as I assume you meant they won their country's first ever medals, not "first... medals in Albertville"...
- Reworded Courcelles (talk)
Spec Ref 7 presumably should say "Banned" rather than "Baned"?
- Yep, it should have. Courcelles (talk)

The Rambling Man (talk) 16:58, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review. Courcelles (talk) 17:37, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

~~Comment~~ Support – "Silver medal-winning slalom skier Annelise Coberger-in addition to winning New Zealand's first Winter Olympic medal-became the first athlete from the Southern Hemisphere to win a medal at the Winter Olympics." Seems to me that the bracketing hyphens should be em dashes; they shouldn't be hyphens to start with, and em dashes are used similarly elsewhere in the list. Other than this issue, everything looks okay. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 21:20, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Yep, you're right. I usually put in hyphens and then run the dash script, I forgot this time. Courcelles (talk) 21:35, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support with a few comments. Parutakupiu (talk) 17:43, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Don't specify any width for the medal image. The default width is bigger and apropriate;
  - You're right, removed; that was a vestige of the old image that completely overwhelmed the page.
- No alt text for medal image?
  - Added.
- Typo (2x): skiier → skier;
  - Whoops. Thanks for the review. Courcelles (talk) 18:24, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support Sandman888 (talk) ^{Latest FLC} 10:52, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Sandman888 (talk) ^{Latest FLC} 20:59, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

* what makes sports-reference.com a reliable source? It seems to be self-published.

- That it is. There has been news coverage of the sports-reference site which refers to it as a reliable reference site and details how the statistics are created. There's also details on the authors of the Olympic subsection here, which seem to support its reliability as the compilers are all members of the International Society of Olympic Historians. What is also telling, incidentally, is the fact that we have Template:Cite sports-reference. sonia♫ 11:05, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - Is there an news coverage backing up sports-reference? Preferably regarding the Olympics. That would meet the requirements of self-published sources. Sandman888 (talk) ^{Latest FLC} 12:01, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    - Here's a book that mentions it as a "good, quick reference". Does that help? I'll keep looking for more regarding the Olympics. sonia♫ 12:12, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      - This library is one of a few that recommend it; this Sports Illustrated interview suggests that the parent site is reliable- and this book uses it as a source. But I think more compelling is the above linked list of the contributors to that site- they are reputable in the field. sonia ♫ 12:37, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        According to the policies, these sources are okay "... when produced by an established expert on the topic of the article whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable third-party publications". So my question is whether that criteria is met here Sandman888 (talk) ^{Latest FLC} 13:08, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        Sandman, see also the comments at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/1976 Winter Olympics medal table/archive1. Dabomb87 (talk) 13:48, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        Oh right I forgot to check back on that FLC. Sandman888 (talk) ^{Latest FLC} 16:09, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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