Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/2010 Winter Olympics medal table/archive1

The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Dabomb87 22:39, 14 April 2010 [1].

2010 Winter Olympics medal table

Nominator(s): Scorpion ⁰⁴²² 21:51, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Featured list candidates/2010 Winter Olympics medal table/archive1

It's been three weeks since the Olympics ended, so I think this page is sufficiently stable. It's modeled after the 2008 Summer Olympics medal table and 2006 Winter Olympics medal table, both FLs. Enjoy! -- Scorpion ⁰⁴²² 21:51, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Jujutacular ^T · C 16:48, 24 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comments:

Prefer "ranked" over "sorted" in the first sentence.
- It should remain sorted. That word has brought forth a lot of debate on the talk pages of this and similar articles. It's a very long and tedious debate, but basically, the way it's sorted has long been disputed. Some feel it should be ranked by total medals, some feel it should be sorted alphabetically. The IOC officially says there are no rankings. So, techinally the table is just sorted by gold, per the IOC website.
  - That makes sense, thanks. Jujutacular ^T · C 03:33, 24 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It says this is the "largest Winter Games". The source does not explicitly state that, and the article does not state by what numbering we're measuring "largest".
- Removed. It's true, but I don't think it's necessary.
"leaving 54 countries without a medal" - By my count, 82–26=56. Am I missing something?
- Fixed
This source seems to be broken.
- Switched to a working ref.

Jujutacular ^T · C 03:20, 23 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for taking a look. -- Scorpion ⁰⁴²² 00:53, 24 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

One more:

"Bjørgen...became the ninth Winter Olympian to win five medals at one edition of the Games."- I was unable to verify this statement (being the ninth) from the source listed.

Jujutacular ^T · C 03:33, 24 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Removed, thanks. -- Scorpion ⁰⁴²² 16:37, 24 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support Looks good. Thanks for your hard work. Jujutacular ^T · C 19:29, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 06:47, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

" gold medal wins[2] and became the first host nation since Norway in 1952 to lead the gold medal count, with 14 gold medals, breaking a series of gold medals records. Canada broke the record for most gold medals at a single home Winter Olympics, which was 10, set by Norway in 1994 and the United States in 2002. Canada also broke the record for the most golds " count "gold medals" or "golds" here. Perhaps a rephrase?
- A user has been continually adding records Canada set that I find are rather trivial for a page like this. I removed the first bit and switched "golds" to "gold medals".
"won five medals (three gold, one silver, one bronze) more than any other athlete" surely some punctuation before "more than..." here?
- Fixed.
National Olympic Committee is overlinked.
- Fixed.
Sorting by gold (descending), I'd expect it to sort per the original sorting, i.e. in accordance with your notes. Instead, I get Norway third (with 8 silvers) and USA fourth (with 15 silvers) despite both having 9 golds..
- It works for me, and only switched to Norway first if I sort other columns. But, is it really that important?
2nd EL has no publisher info or anything.
- It's unnecessary, so I removed it.

The Rambling Man (talk) 19:31, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review. -- Scorpion ⁰⁴²² 23:19, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't ranks which tie be e.g. 17= etc rather than just two 17s? The Rambling Man (talk) 06:47, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Never heard of this convention before, is it common? Another possibility: 17 (tie) Jujutacular ^T · C 19:41, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - Well it's pretty commonplace. It simply means "17th equal". The Rambling Man (talk) 17:45, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comments (from the editor who worked the 1998 table to FL status) – Didn't find much to comment on, and what I did find was either minor or subjective.

The first sentence strikes me as akin to the "This is a list of" beginnings that we've been discouraging lately. Not sure if anyone else feels the same, or if I just think this because I started the 1998 list differently and have a bias toward it.
"A total of 2,632 athletes from 82 nations participated in 86 events from fifteen different sport disciplines." All the other numbers above 10 are given as numerals in the lead, so I imagine that "fifteen" should be as well. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 19:26, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Both done. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 20:59, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - Support – Looks good to go after the changes. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 19:05, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I think that a medal map should be added to the list. It provides a better visual impact as we can see in 2007 Pan American Games medal table, the latest Featured medal table. Felipe Menegaz 16:03, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- It doesn't really add a lot to the article. How does knowing location of nations like Estonia help readers understand the article? -- Scorpion ⁰⁴²² 21:54, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support Sourced and well presented. However, I would have to agree with Felipe Menegaz, a map of the countries that earned a medal would be a better visual representation to compliment the table. Sb617 (Talk) 01:02, 4 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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