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Christopher Nolan filmography

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Nominator(s): Sammyjankis88 (talk) 14:54, 30 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because... It meets every criteria for FA. Simple and not overly detailed, yet a complete filmography with very strong sourcing. Lead is straight to the point, and covers the content below. Sammyjankis88 (talk) 14:54, 30 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Cowlibob (talk) 15:31, 13 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
*Oppose per content fork (3c). The key information in this article could be placed in the main article in one table. There is no need for a separate filmography article. Cowlibob (talk) 23:07, 30 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You could make the same argument for so many filmographies that are FA, including some of the lists you have been working on (James Cameron's filmography is just as short, all that could go in the main article as well). But I'd ague that a complete filmography, put toghether in one scheme, would be way more confusing for the average reader looking up what films Nolan has made. Also, another reason for splitting was that the main article was 180k at one point, Wikipedia recommends splitting up over 140k. (edit: Thanks for the feedback, not my intention to seem ungrateful here) Sammyjankis88 (talk) 09:24, 1 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Sammyjankis88: I've created an example of the table in my sandbox User:Cowlibob/sandbox. The current size of Nolan's article is approx 97K. This table is 4.5K (with the caveat it would increase with refs to I'd estimate to max of 8K). Cowlibob (talk) 11:50, 1 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Cowlibob: Thanks indeed. I do not understand why you think that scheme would make it easier for the average reader on his main article (?). I can see the argument on the filmography article, sure. It's much better with a simple list of the films he has directed on the main page; that is obviously what people search for. Only the very interested will care if he served as executive producer on a short film or appeared in a documentary. With the sources and 'Reception' section, that would be closer to 15k, not 8k. Let's not forget that his main article will grow with Tenet in 2020 (and further projects), so were right back at pushing 140k.. The reason why the current size of Nolan's article is 97K is because I've further split his filmmaking section (71,829 bytes) and his filmography (20,173 bytes). I do appreciate your opinion, but I respectfully disagree. Sammyjankis88 (talk) 12:23, 1 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
EDIT: Thank you very much for the table, I have updated the filmography article. (still very close to 20k). :) Sammyjankis88 (talk) 17:43, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for adding the table and your work on the Nolan articles thus far. I've had a rethink and consulted the WP:SPLIT more closely especially the rule of thumb table which I hadn't seen before which recommends almost always splitting if at 100k which the main one is pretty much at and have struck my oppose. Having said that, the other main issue I noted was that this filmography contains a reception table which to my knowledge is not included in any FL filmography. I think it would be better if the info re: reception is summarised the lead rather than as a separate table. For example discussing whether the film was commercially successful or generally received critical acclaim/ awards or the opposite. I'm happy to have a go at writing an example lead in that format if you'd like later this week. Cowlibob (talk) 16:42, 3 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Much appreciated that you have taken the time to look at this. I'd be very, very happy if you could take a crack at the lead, I agree that it would be better for the article if the "reception" section could be transformed or merged into prose in the lead. Best regards! Sammyjankis88 (talk) 17:31, 3 December 2019 (UTC) EDIT: Just went ahead and removed the reception-table. I will try to incorporate your lead when that is done. All the best. Sammyjankis88 (talk) 13:06, 5 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments
    • "It was his first film for Warner Bros. The film was a commercial success." - these two extremely short sentences could be joined together (Done)
    • "which starred Christian Bale, and told an origin story of the title character" - don't think that comma is needed (Done)
    • "His next film was the sequel to Batman Begins, The Dark Knight in which" - however here a comma is needed after "Knight" (Done)
    • "who steal information from entering a person's subconscious" - I think "who steal information by entering a person's subconscious" would be better (Done)
    • "Two years later, he directed the sequel to The Dark Knight, The Dark Knight Rises (2012) which grossed" - needs a comma after the brackets (Done)
  • Think that's it from me -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:10, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the feedback. Sammyjankis88 (talk) 12:34, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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