Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Degrassi: The Next Generation (season 2)
- The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The list was promoted 04:22, 23 February 2008.
Self-nomination
I feel this list is of featured quality, being that it is well written, comprehensive, referenced and correct. I think it meets all the criteria. This continues my drive to get all the season pages for Degrassi: The Next Generation to featured list status, especially with the current plans regarding List of (insert show title here) episodes, which looks like episode summaries will be removed and then transcluded from season pages where possible. As the main episode list of D:TNG is already a FL, and a lot of the content in this nominated list is from there, I hope there won't be many problems, but any comments and suggestions will be acted upon. Thank you. -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 06:10, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy-close - Unable to complete this at this time. -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 17:53, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It seems I was a little hasty in saying I was unable to complete this candidacy. -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 07:06, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
- This may sound a little lazy but can you apply the same comments I made to season 1 to this list? For example, the citation of award noms in the lead, episode numbers, etc?
- Done
- "for Canada's younger viewers. " pretty non-specific...
- Done
- "The second season had fifteen roles getting star billing. Thirteen of them returned from the first season." merge - "...billing, with thirteen of them..."
- Done
- "high-achiever and lonely" - "high-achieving yet lonely"...
- Done
- Lead said series premiered with "When Doves Cry" and Cast section says "...the series premiere, "Mother and Child Reunion"..." A different series? A little unclear.
- That's correct. Season 2 did premiere with "When Doves Cry". In the cast section, "Mother and Child Reunion" was the series premiere, in which Pat Mastroiami guest starred. I could make it less ambiguous by saying "first episode of season one", but it seems clumsy as there is a clear distinction between "season" and "series" in American and Canadan terminology, unlike the UK where we use "series" for both.
- Ok, I get it. The problem for me was realising a difference between series and season... Cool. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:39, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- That's correct. Season 2 did premiere with "When Doves Cry". In the cast section, "Mother and Child Reunion" was the series premiere, in which Pat Mastroiami guest starred. I could make it less ambiguous by saying "first episode of season one", but it seems clumsy as there is a clear distinction between "season" and "series" in American and Canadan terminology, unlike the UK where we use "series" for both.
- "D:TNG" is used for the first time in the Cast section without being explained - it's best to put this acronym after the first "Degrassi: The Next Generation" in the lead.
- Done
- Those age ranges could be written as 2 to 11. Or 2–11. But not separated with a hyphen as you currently have it.
- Done
- I hate stuff in parentheses so just write it out as the end of the sentence.
- Done
- Hmm, "teen" again. I know what you're saying but not keen - not 100% encyclopaedic in my opinon.
- Done - except where "teen" is used in a quote, but I could change those to "teen[aged]", "teen[ager]" or "teen[agers]]" where applicable if you want?
- No, leave them in quotes. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:39, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Done - except where "teen" is used in a quote, but I could change those to "teen[aged]", "teen[ager]" or "teen[agers]]" where applicable if you want?
- The N - this needs linking or explaining again.
- Done - see lead.
- "stands on it's own" - did the quote really have that apostrophe?!
- It's a reprint so I'm not sure. I've removed it though as it is incorrect. Done
- " the season had won or been nominated for" - why not " the season had been nominated for or won..."?
- Because winning is more important than being nominated. I've Done it though.
- Episode numbering confusion warning!
- "episode fourteen, "Careless Whisper"
- Table says Series #29
- Production code 214.
- End of the Episodes section starts using Production codes as episode numbers...!
- Done Each number is now changed to production code.
- I'd suggest having Episode numbers from 1 to whatever and using those to describe episodes - there shouldn't be any confusion with other seasons.
- Done
- I'd tend to hyphenate re-run.
- Done
- 80's - not sure but I think the manual of style suggests we usually skip the apostrophe here.
- Done changed to "'80s" unless you think the century is unclear, per Wikipedia:MOS#Calendar items and I'll put "1980s", but most '80s dances I've heard of aren't called "1980s dances".
- "Jimmy takes advantage of the situation" - I think this needs explanation (my mind is racing...!)...
- Done - I think?
- "he's got" - a little too familiar - he has.
- Done
- Same for "can't " and "it's" in the following episodes. (check all episodes please!)
- Done
- "Liberty acts out in an attempt to show J.T. he doesn't know anything about her." - I don't get what this means, and "doesn't" is too familiar again.
- Done
- "sex-ed" - ucation.
- Done
- "honour" - would Canadian English put the u in honor?
- According to Canadian English#Spelling and dictionaries, yes. Unfortunately, I don't know of a free online Canadian English dictionary website.
- Fine. No worries, I'm British English so that's what I know best - sounds like Canadian English is part Brit part Yank! The Rambling Man (talk) 15:39, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Easy for you then! I'm a Brit who moved to New Zealand, then moved to America, and writing in Canadian. Ugh! -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 16:56, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Fine. No worries, I'm British English so that's what I know best - sounds like Canadian English is part Brit part Yank! The Rambling Man (talk) 15:39, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- According to Canadian English#Spelling and dictionaries, yes. Unfortunately, I don't know of a free online Canadian English dictionary website.
- "Craig feels a huge weight lifted with," - unusual turn of phrase.
- Done
- Canadian Awards database link is dead now.
- Done URL was wrong, but fixed now and all are checked with Link checker tool
Hopefully these are constructive enough to help push the article on to FL! All the best. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:24, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the review. All but 1 were Done, further input would be appreciated for that one. -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 01:20, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
More comment - Hey Matthew, going really well, need a couple more things...
- "date rape" or "date-rape"?
- Done - I'd actually changed it while going through your earlier comments!
- Not sure now if it's the right thing to do to relate to episodes by their production code - do you do that for season 1 (I can't remember)? We need to be careful and consistent across the articles.
- DoneI used words-as-numbers for season 1, so that's what I've done here.
- I've responded to a couple of outstanding issues above. Nearly there I think! The Rambling Man (talk) 15:39, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Hope so! I've got season 3 to list, and season 4 to work on! -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 16:56, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support - a lot of good work has gone into this. Well done. Let me know when the next seasons are ready! The Rambling Man (talk) 17:09, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you! And I will - Matthew | talk | Contribs 17:40, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Although, I think "split into two parts in syndication" part should be explained better. Maybe add a link to Broadcast syndication. I'd also like to see a complete sentence here without parentheses.--Crzycheetah 08:43, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Done - changed to "Broadcast as separate half-hour episodes in broadcast syndication". Thanks for the support! -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 23:17, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Hmm. is that too many "broadcast"s? Perhaps change it again to "Broadcast as separate half-hour episodes in stripped syndication" -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 23:19, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Maybe "Aired as separate half-hour episodes in broadcast syndication"?--Crzycheetah 01:34, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Done -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 07:41, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Maybe "Aired as separate half-hour episodes in broadcast syndication"?--Crzycheetah 01:34, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Hmm. is that too many "broadcast"s? Perhaps change it again to "Broadcast as separate half-hour episodes in stripped syndication" -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 23:19, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Question - I'd like to add this information: User:Matthewedwards/Sandbox/season 2 DVD to the article, but am unsure of where to place it. Before or after the list of episodes? Do you guys have a suggestion/preference? Thanks -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 17:34, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks, Rambling Man. I added it in after the episodes. Could you just re-review the added information? Cheers! -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 19:13, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. I made a few manual of style tweaks but beyond that I'm not changing from support. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:38, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks. I saw them and applied the same changes to season 1. -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 06:02, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. I made a few manual of style tweaks but beyond that I'm not changing from support. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:38, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks, Rambling Man. I added it in after the episodes. Could you just re-review the added information? Cheers! -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 19:13, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Conditional Support Looks good, but I'd like to see the plot summaries expanded a little because none of the episodes have their own pages. -- Scorpion0422 01:14, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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