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The list was promoted by Dabomb87 02:31, 27 May 2010 [1].

Grammy Award for Best Male Rock Vocal Performance

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Nominator(s): Another Believer (Talk) 02:53, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I believe it meets criteria and closely resembles the other Grammy Award list I recently upgraded to FL status (Grammy Award for Best Traditional Pop Vocal Album). The list should be up to par as far as disambig. links, alternate text, formatting, sorting, etc. go. There is one thing I am uncertain of: should the years when the aforementioned award was not presented ('88, '92, '94) be included in the list? I did not include 2005–2010 as the award was not presented then, but I felt this was a larger sequence and did not think a large chunk of empty cells would look appropriate. Any feedback would be appreciated, and thanks to all reviewers for taking the time to offer their comments! --Another Believer (Talk) 02:53, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose on image

I've cleaned up the licensing information on the Kravitz and DMB photos but File:Robert Palmer.jpg is fair use and shouldn't be used. I think it's use on the Robert Palmer page is weak at best. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 19:11, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the image of Robert Palmer. --Another Believer (Talk) 15:00, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Replace the {{country name}} templates with just the names of the countries (without links).—indopug (talk) 11:48, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Even though similar lists (Grammy Legend Award, MusiCares Person of the Year, Grammy Award for Best Traditional Pop Vocal Album) use the templates? I would think consistency would be preferred. --Another Believer (Talk) 15:00, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
See WP:MOSFLAG (including the flag implies a whole bunch of nationalistic things, and those annoying little images increase page-load time) and WP:OVERLINKING. The other articles should be changed as well (although not necessarily by you). —indopug (talk) 15:29, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I am not refusing to remove the templates, and I see WP:MOSFLAG, but according to this section of the second link you provided repeated links are appropriate in a table (so United States would be linked each time regardless of whether or not the flag was pictured next to it). Thank you for your feedback. I would like to see additional comments from other reviewers (preferably the ones that commented on and promoted the aforementioned Grammy-related lists) to see their thoughts on removing the flag templates. --Another Believer (Talk) 15:31, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I don't have strong feelings about the flags, but either way I don't think this is the place to discuss it - this decision affects a number of lists. Jujutacular T · C 18:51, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 16:39, 4 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comments very good.
  • Is "for quality vocal performances in the rock music genre" a direct quote from the Grammys? If so, quote marks needed and a ref too.
No, it is not a direct quote. --Another Believer (Talk) 19:58, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Any reason why you have artist(s)? Can't see more than one artist winning.
Corrected. --Another Believer (Talk) 19:58, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man (talk) 19:21, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your comments. Any thoughts on the above discussion about the flag templates? --Another Believer (Talk) 19:58, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I don't have a problem with the flags. It's a sortable table, and as long as we comply with WP:ACCESS (i.e. we have the flag and the name) I'm happy. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:12, 29 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Jujutacular T · C 16:48, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
*Could you include a little bit more in the captions of the images of Dave Matthews and Michael Jackson? Citing that Dave Matthews was the last artist to win the award would be nice. Jujutacular T · C 18:51, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Thank you. --Another Believer (Talk) 16:41, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Truco
Comments
  • "The Grammy Award for Best Male Rock Vocal Performance is an award given to male recording artists for quality vocal performances in the rock music genre at the Grammy Awards, a ceremony that was established in 1958 and originally called the Gramophone Awards." -- This might need some tweaking, because it sounds like the awards are only for those who actually perform at the Grammy Awards.
I see what you mean. I re-formatted the sentence, so hopefully it reads better now. --Another Believer (Talk) 16:41, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The title of the award remained unchanged up to 1993 (starting with the 1995 ceremony, the category became known as Best Male Rock Vocal Performance)." --> "Beginning with the 1995 ceremony, the name of the award was changed to Best Male Rock Vocal Performance. However, in 1988, 1992, ...."
Done. --Another Believer (Talk) 16:41, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Years reflect the year in which the Grammy Awards were handed out, for music released in the previous year." -- same thing with what I said in the other list.
Done. --Another Believer (Talk) 16:41, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Likewise with the other list, nationalities should be represented in the lead somehow.
Done. Again, hopefully the wording is acceptable (I wasn't exactly sure how to include Dave Matthews). --Another Believer (Talk) 16:41, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Looks fine to me, except the Matthews note. I don't really see why it would be a controversy if he is from there?--Truco 503 01:46, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I removed the Matthews note. --Another Believer (Talk) 02:03, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well if the award has been given out as the combined award for genderless classification for five years now, is this award still active? Or has it been discontinued with the merger? Or is it just on the basis of how the Academy sees sales annually?--Truco 503 00:16, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Honestly, I don't think we have a way of knowing. I have not read that the award is inactive, and based on the history of the award you can see it has been brought back a couple of times. I would not assume that the award will not be presented again. --Another Believer (Talk) 16:41, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think it should be noted that since the merge in 2005, the award has not been awarded but not official confirmation of its disbanding was announced.--Truco 503 01:46, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Better? Hopefully "disbanding" is used appropriately in the lead. --Another Believer (Talk) 02:03, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]


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