Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Huskies of Honor/archive1

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The list was promoted by The Rambling Man 18:42, 25 April 2011 [1].

Huskies of Honor

Featured list candidates/Huskies of Honor/archive1

Nominator(s): –Grondemar 04:44, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This list was the first article I ever wrote for Wikipedia, back just over one year ago. Although at the time I brought the list to peer review, I never nominated it for featured status due to looking for more information and sources. Inspired by the edits of an IP, I have reconsidered and reformatted the list, and now bring it up for consideration as a featured list candidate.

Huskies of Honor is a recognition program similar to a Hall of Fame sponsored by the Connecticut Huskies. This list notes the names of the honorees, which include players, coaches, and teams from the men's and women's basketball programs as well as one athletic director. I believe that this list is currently at featured list quality; please review and provide your comments as to whether you agree. –Grondemar 04:44, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 07:25, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

I'm not sure many Europeans (certainly not I) know what a "recognition program" is. Is there a decent link? It's not essential given what you say in the second sentence....
- "Recognition program" was intended to be a generic term covering efforts made by organizations to honor high-achieving individuals. I didn't want to say "Huskies of Honor" is a hall of fame since there is no physical hall, just banners displayed at Gampel Pavilion. –Grondemar 03:28, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"...an additional two women's basketball players..." looks like three to me.
- Good catch, fixed. Since the time the article was originally written, one women's basketball player, Maya Moore, was inducted; that's the reason for the discrepancy.
No need to abbreviate NIT as it's not used subsequently.
- Removed. –Grondemar 03:28, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
" to 12 Yankee Conference championships, seven NCAA Tournament berths, " mix and match words and numbers here vs "UConn has won two national championships (1999 and 2004), seven Big East Tournaments, and ten Big East regular season titles, while placing twenty-three former" is all words, despite one being more than 10... I don't really mind either way but I'd prefer stylistic consistency.
- Changed so that numbers greater than 10 are consistently in numerals instead of text. –Grondemar 03:28, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"while placing twenty-three former players into " odd phrasing, perhaps USEng, but I'm not sure the college "placed" the players "into" the NBA, more that the players were drafted into the NBA by NBA teams?
- The source says the players "...have gone on to play in the NBA," which could mean they were drafted or they went undrafted and signed with an NBA team as a free agent. I used "placed" as a more-generic term rather than repeat the source. –Grondemar 03:28, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"Under his hand," another odd saying for me. Perhaps "Guided by him" or "Under his coaching" or something less allegorical.
- Changed to "Under his guidance". –Grondemar 03:28, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Explain WNBA before using the abbreviation.
- Added. –Grondemar 03:28, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"basketball superpower" is that your opinion or quote? If the former, it should be toned down, if the later, I'd like to see it directly quoted.
- I downgraded to "power", but if you review Tennessee Lady Volunteers basketball you'll see "superpower" is really not exaggeration at all. –Grondemar 03:28, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Link position each time as the tables are sortable.
- Done. –Grondemar 03:28, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"was drafted 2nd overall " would prefer to stick to prose and say "second".
- Done. –Grondemar 03:28, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Not keen on the use of the hash for squad number, even if it is linked (see MOS:HASH).
- Changed to "No." per MOS. –Grondemar 03:28, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man (talk) 16:39, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your review and comments; I believe I have addressed them all. –Grondemar 03:28, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Giants2008 (27 and counting) 21:03, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments –

NCAA needs spelling out.
- Done. –Grondemar 03:29, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Reference 5, used for the Calhoun sentence, is now slightly outdated since the Huskies have won a Big East Tournament since it came out. I'd suggest another cite for the most recent title, with perhaps another one in the future depending on current events.
- Added reference as requested. Hopefully I'll need to add another reference in a couple of days. –Grondemar 03:29, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Remove space after parenthetical WNBA, before a comma.
- Fixed. –Grondemar 03:29, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Add a comma after "Tina Charles in 2010"?
- Fixed. –Grondemar 03:29, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
In the tables, can Coach, Team, Director, and second positions be decapitalized? They aren't proper nouns, after all.
- Fixed. –Grondemar 03:29, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
States should be spelled out, especially if Russia and Italy are. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 22:22, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Fixed. Thanks for the comments, Giants; all of your concerns should be addressed now. –Grondemar 03:29, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support – Meets FL standards. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 21:03, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OK, after an eventful few days where the Huskies won the 2011 National Championship and Kemba Walker was inducted into the Huskies of Honor at a surprise ceremony in Storrs, the list has updated to reflect the new addition and all new information has been sourced. I'd like to thank User:NationalFlagBlue and the IP editors who beat me to the punch in updating the article; I only needed to do a little cleanup. –Grondemar 23:59, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

TonyTheTiger's comments

It is unclear to me whether this is for basketball only or all sports.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 18:05, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Unfortunately the university has never stated whether the "Huskies of Honor" program is reserved for only men's and women's basketball or will be expanded to cover other sports. Right now the only member of the Huskies of Honor from outside basketball is John Toner, who was elected as athletic direction but before that was the football head coach. I once asked Randy Edsall at an open event whether the school was considering extending the Huskies of Honor to the football program, and he indicated that UConn was actively looking into that. Of course, now that he has departed it's unclear when if ever this extension will take place. I wish the article could be clearer but unfortunately it can only as clear as UConn allows it to be. –Grondemar 22:55, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Courcelles 10:02, 21 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

*Comments

"included 13 men's basketball players, ten women's basketball players, and four head coaches, two of whom are also" Comparable quantities should be in the same format. Lede has more MOS:NUM issues, review all.

These should all be fixed now. –Grondemar 05:17, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Formally connect the Connecticut Huskies with UConn.

I'm sorry, I don't understand what you mean by this. –Grondemar 05:17, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You state "Huskies of Honor is a recognition program sponsored by the University of Connecticut (UConn)." and "Similar to a hall of fame, it honors the most significant figures in the history of the Connecticut Huskies,", but the reader is forced to connect the dots that the Connecticut Huskies represent the University. Non-Americans may not do this, especially where there is not a tradition of student sports. Courcelles 20:52, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

How about "Similar to a hall of fame, it honors the most significant figures in the history of the Connecticut Huskies—the university's athletic teams—especially the men's and women's basketball teams."? –Grondemar 23:48, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"including four at the end of undefeated seasons." source?

Added a citation to the UConn 2010–11 media guide. –Grondemar 05:17, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"Twenty-two former UConn women's basketball players have graduated to" The source makes no claim that all 22 graduated, just that they played at UConn and the WNBA...

Changed to "have gone on to"; however, it is worth noting that the media guide claims that Geno Auriemma has a "flawless" graduation rate. –Grondemar 05:17, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Out of date after yesterday's 2011 WNBA Draft.

Updated with source. –Grondemar 05:17, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If Kemba declares and signs an agent this afternoon, don't forget to change his "present" tag to 2011.

Updated. –Grondemar 05:17, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

File:Uconnwomenslogo.png needs to be removed from the navbox; a basketball is too complex for a PD-ineligible license.

I hope you don't mind, but I asked User:J Milburn for a second opinion on this. If he concurs with your judgement I will happily remove the image. My thought was that the basketball is really only a circle with a few lines on it, and so simple in this illustration that it fell under the "simple geometric shape" portion of PD-ineligible. –Grondemar 05:17, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

After discussion with User:J Milburn, I have removed both UConn logos from the Huskies of Honor navbox pending verification of copyright status. –Grondemar 15:24, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, Image:uconnmenslogo.png is not a problem, and could be restored, as it is just a U and a C interposed on each other, clearly within the bounds of pd-text. Courcelles 20:54, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree on the licensing, but I don't want to include the men's logo and not the women's logo, for fairness reasons. I'd rather have no logos rather than just one of them. –Grondemar 23:48, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Courcelles 13:17, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies for not responding sooner; I have been very busy with RL projects and haven't had a chance to address your comments yet. I should get to them by the weekend. –Grondemar 04:45, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I have (finally) responded to your concerns, please see above. –Grondemar 05:17, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support Courcelles 10:02, 21 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for your support! I hope you don't mind I fixed the bolding above. –Grondemar 00:36, 22 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note to anyone reviewing: I will be on vacation and completely away from the Internet until May 2. I will reply to any further comments then. –Grondemar 16:59, 22 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support With full note of my bias as a UConn undergrad and law student. :) Should the program be extended to other sports obviously the lead will need reworking (goes into the history of the bball programs), but as is it's fine. Staxringold _talk^contribs 22:28, 24 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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