Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of 1930s jazz standards/archive2

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The list was promoted by Giants2008 20:06, 25 December 2011 [1].

List of 1930s jazz standards

Nominator(s): Jafeluv (talk) 17:13, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Third part in a series of lists of jazz standards. The earlier nomination last month was slightly premature, but now I think the article is ready and meets the FL criteria. Jafeluv (talk) 17:13, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I havn't reviewed the article, but here few issues:

the images require ALT texting.
Done, although it may be worth double-checking since describing people's appearance is not exactly my strong point. For example, I have no idea how to properly describe Billie Holiday's hat in that picture. Jafeluv (talk) 17:06, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Need to replace February 1 1987 with 1 February 1987. in one of the refs to match all.
Done. Jafeluv (talk) 16:00, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Refs usage should be fixed to organize them numerically, ie: [12][7] to [7][12]; [28][29][10][7] to [7][10][28][29], and so on. All of the refs 7,10 and 40 of what I see are like that, and probably more.
Done. Jafeluv (talk) 16:00, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Fakebooks should be Fake books
– HonorTheKing (talk) 09:49, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Jafeluv (talk) 16:00, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Giants2008 (27 and counting) 17:13, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments – This will be a review in pieces, since it's a long list with a lot of writing. Starting off...

First, what makes JazzStandards.com a reliable source? This is particularly important since it's very widely used in the list.
This actually came up in an earlier FLC. Information about the writers can be found here, and at least Jeremy Wilson and Chris Tyle also have their own Wikipedia articles. AFAICT the site's writers are trustworthy sources on the topic of jazz standards and their list has been produced using objective inclusion criteria. Jafeluv (talk) 17:24, 30 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Just in the 1930 section, I see a load of repeated links from one entry to another. There's no need to have this many repeated links in prose (maybe if it was a table, but that's not what we're dealing with). It also appears that the rest of the article has many repeat wikilinks. I've lost track of how many Louis Armstrong links there are, to give one example.
Went through the text and removed repeating links. There were indeed 11 links to Armstrong in the article! Jafeluv (talk) 22:13, 30 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
In the photo caption here, the phrasing "endured lasting popularity" is confusing me. Perhaps "gained lasting populariry" would make more sense.
Changed. Jafeluv (talk) 17:24, 30 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
1931: "by vaudeville performer Belle Baker. Baker...". Try to avoid this kind of repetition from one sentence to another (Baker and Baker). Giants2008 (27 and counting) 19:28, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Reworded this and a few others like it. Jafeluv (talk) 22:13, 30 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
1934: "A 1961 version sold a million copies was included in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's list of 500 Songs that Shaped Rock and Roll." Feels like "and" should be put before "was", or another change should be made to it.
Fixed. Jafeluv (talk) 08:54, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
1936: "and recorded the song several times 1940s and 1950s." Missing "in the" toward the end?
Done. Jafeluv (talk) 08:54, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Another one of the repetitions like the one above: "It is often associated with swing bands, especially Benny Goodman. Goodman...". I'd also switch the first one to "Goodman's" since it's referring to his band, not him.
Reworded. Jafeluv (talk) 08:54, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
1937: "and the song became later readily associated with his live performances." Switch the order of "became" and "later"?
Changed to "and later the song became readily associated". Jafeluv (talk) 08:54, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
1939: "'Something' to Live For' is a jazz ballad written by Billy Strayhorn. Strayhorn...". More sentence-to-sentence repetition. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 00:42, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Reworded. Jafeluv (talk) 08:54, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 20:57, 16 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments a couple of general points, but overall a very nice piece of work.

This may be picky, but "is a song" is really repetitive. I don't think we need it on just about every entry. It's clear each is a standard by the nature of the list so we could be more creative in writing our prose. Mix it up a little.
Reworded most of the entries to avoid excessive repetition. Any better? Jafeluv (talk) 21:33, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Check for redirects which imply the title you've used isn't 100% bang on, like "How Deep Is the Ocean (How High Is the Sky) " seems, on the face of it, to be missing a ? for instance, "Sing, Sing, Sing" has "(with a Swing)" in our article for instance.
Done. Jafeluv (talk) 21:33, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man (talk) 11:20, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support - as a jazz musician I consider the improvement of these lists to be a phenomenal resource. Cheers. — KV5 • Talk • 13:07, 17 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support - I believe it meets the criteria.
– HonorTheKing (talk) 02:55, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support Cant' find any faults NapHit (talk) 22:50, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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