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List of Burnley F.C. managers

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Nominator(s): WA8MTWAYC (talk) 14:15, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This time I'm nominating quite a small list about Burnley Football Club's managers. Other similar FL were used as a benchmark. I'm looking forward to all feedback/reviews. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 14:15, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:08, 30 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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  • "he had been involved with the club since the change from rugby to association football in 1882" - this reference to a change of code is somewhat out of the blue (the wording kinda suggests it had been mentioned earlier, but it hadn't)
Reworded. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 22:58, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Cliff Britton [....] was the first non secretary-manager in the club's history" - this bit's mildly confusing. You said earlier that until 1894 the team was selected by a committee headed up by a secretary. You say that in 1894 the club decided to appoint a team manager (which implies that this was a different role to that of secretary). But then you say that Britton was the first manager not to also be secretary - can you clarify?
All Burnley (team) managers until 1945 also assumed secretarial duties at some point but not everyone was a "full-time secretary-manager". E.g. Bradshaw was appointed team manager in 1894 and only assumed secretarial duties from 1897 until his departure, whereas Haworth was secretary/manager during his whole stint at the club. Britton was the first not to have any secretarial duties. I've removed the sentence, however, as it's indeed a bit confusing and doesn't add that much. The definition of the role of a manager and its terminology changed during the 1930s/1940s/1950s anyway. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 22:58, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "From 1954 to 1983, only managers with a previous playing career at the club were appointed—this trend ended when John Bond took the post in June 1983" - any idea if this was a conscious decision by the club or just a coincidence?
It was a conscious decision by the club, or rather by our autocratic chairman Bob Lord! Added a ref and expanded the sentence a bit. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 22:58, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
ChrisTheDude Thank you for taking a look and your feedback, Chris! I've amended the points above and left some comments. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 22:58, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from RunningTiger123 (talk) 15:38, 2 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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  • "Burnley have had 28 permanent managers and 5 caretakers, all born in the United Kingdom" – Owen Coyle's nationality is listed as Irish, which would seem to contradict this information. I read about him and saw that he was born in Scotland to Irish parents, which means the statement is still right, but it's a bit confusing. Perhaps a footnote here clarifying this would be nice.
Added a footnote. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 22:07, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Archive the online sources
Done, except for the sources which are used for current situations such as Dyche's Soccerbase stats. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 22:07, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Consider replacing the column header "References" with {{Abbr|Refs.|References}}
Done. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 22:07, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Image caption could use a source, since the page doesn't state when the team has been promoted/relegated
The table contains the two promotions and the reference (from Sky Sports). WA8MTWAYC (talk) 22:07, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

— RunningTiger123 (talk) 20:03, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

RunningTiger123 Thank you very much for taking a look and for your review! I've addressed the points above and left some comments there. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 22:07, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good! You're right about the caption – "Championship title" and "Championship promotion" imply that. However, I don't see why the sources for current situations shouldn't be archived; at any rate, I don't think it would hurt to include it. RunningTiger123 (talk) 22:58, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
RunningTiger123 The reason why I didn't archive some sources is that they need updating otherwise the information stated would be quickly outdated and incorrect (e.g. Dyche's stats in the table). If Dyche would leave (which unfortunately could be likely regarding the club's current situation on and off the field...) I could/will archive the Soccerbase source. WA8MTWAYC (talk) 08:25, 2 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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