Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Houston Astros Opening Day starting pitchers
- The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 05:23, 4 January 2009 [1].
I believe this list meets the featured list criteria, consistent with List of Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim Opening Day starting pitchers, List of Kansas City Royals Opening Day starting pitchers, List of Los Angeles Dodgers Opening Day starting pitchers, and others. Rlendog (talk) 04:30, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
- The Astros began to play in 1962 under the name Houston Colt .45s (their name was changed to the Astros in 1965 when the Houston Astrodome opened as their home park). - how about instead of under the name replace it with as
- In their first eight seasons, the Colt .45s and Astros used eight different Opening Day starters. In 1970, that steak ended when Larry Dierker made his second Opening Day start. - in similar lists like these, a / is used in between the 2 names the team has used because adding an and makes it seem like it was 2 different teams
- Three different pitchers have made five Opening Day starts apiece - apiece just stands out here, can it be reworded somehow?
- They moved to the Astrodome in 1965. They played 25 Opening Day games in the Astrodome, and their starting pitchers had a record of 12 wins, 8 losses and 5 no decisions in those games. - these two sentences can be merged like After moving to the Astrodome in 1965, they played 25....
- Through 2008 they have played seven Opening Day games there, - comma before they--SRX 16:36, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you for your comments. I believe I addressed them all. Rlendog (talk) 04:31, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- In addition, in the key, the headings should be in bold because the column headings in the table are in bold, which is what the key is representing.--SRX 20:08, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
- I don't think this is the case. The other "Opening Day starting pitcher" featured lists, including but not limited to the ones above, do not bold the keys. Has there been a new policy on featured lists to t his effect? I don't necessarily have a problem doing it, but not all the items in the key represent column headings from the table. So the result would be an ugly mishmash of bold and non-bold items. Rlendog (talk) 22:42, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- They should, however, because the key represents what some of the table parameters mean. For example see List of ECW Television Champions, the bold/non-bold doesn't really matter.--SRX 00:02, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
- The key represents what some of the table parameters mean, but bolding versus not bolding does not affect that meaning, or anyone's comprehension of that meaning. The example you provide works with some elements in the key bolded and some not, but that is a simpler key than this one (and my personal opinion is that it would look better all non-bold, but that is just a personal opinion). This key would start with a bold item, then have 4 non-bold items, then 2 bold items, and then 4 non-bold items, which I think would look messy. If there is a FLC standard that items in the key that match table parameters should be bolded I will comply, but I don't think that is the case. Most if not all of the Opening Day starting pitcher featured lists use non-bolded keys. In addition, just among baseball featured lists I checked, at least Cy Young Award and List of Nashville Sounds managers use non-bolded keys. Rlendog (talk) 18:54, 25 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs) Very good article, just a couple of silly errors:
"their starting pitches" Typo."that steak" Another typo."based Houston, Texas" Word missing.Dabomb87 (talk) 02:06, 27 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 02:06, 27 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you for your comments. I believe I fixed the typos. Rlendog (talk) 04:58, 27 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments by -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24[c]
- Houston, Texas--> Houston, Texas
- "No decisions are only awarded to the starting pitcher if the game is won or lost after the starting pitcher has left the game." reference?
- "...(their name was changed to the Astros in 1965 when the Houston Astrodome opened as their home park)..."
- It is way too long, and could be shortened.
- needs reference.
- "Three different pitchers have each made five Opening Day starts:" --> "Three different pitchers have each made five Opening Day starts with the Astros:"
- "in three home ball parks." should be wikilinked on the first appearance, which is on the second paragraph.
- "in the Astrodome" WP:OVERLINK.
- "The Astros have advanced to the World Series once, in 2005. Oswalt was the Opening Day starter that season, and lost to the St. Louis Cardinals."
- First sentence needs reference.
- Read the second sentence carefully. "lost to the St. Louis Cardinals." what is that referring to?
- The article is not wikilinked on the Houston Astros navbox template.
- You could mention which ones have their numbers retired by the Astros. (ie. Dierker, Wilson, Ryan, Scott)
-- signed by SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24 (spell my name backwards) at 07:03, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you for your comments. I believe I have addressed all of them, with two exceptions. For the "long sentence" comment in the 3rd bullet, I'm not sure the sentence is too long or that there is a good way to shorten it. It is 163 characters with spaces and 133 characters without spaces, including the parenthetical phrase. I also chose not to add the retired numbers. While that information could be interesting, I am not sure it adds that much in this context, and I think it would add clutter for pitchers who have multiple opening day starts and a retired number. Rlendog (talk) 19:06, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Support -- signed by SRE.K.A
nnoyomous.L.24 (spell my name backwards) at 02:48, 4 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in the bot processing the close. Please see WP:FLC/ar, and leave the {{FLC}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 05:59, 4 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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