Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of International Mathematical Olympiads

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The list was promoted 15:49, 14 April 2008.

List of International Mathematical Olympiads

previous FLC (13:13, 24 March 2008)

I'm resubmitting only hours after the last one closed: There was only one major issue left (the date formatting) and that's been addressed. You can read everything else in the previous nomination. Nousernamesleft^{copper, not wood} 17:32, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved stuff from The Rambling Man (talk) 15:41, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Why don't all IMO's have references?t
- See the previous nomination. Nousernamesleft^{copper, not wood} 19:37, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - Fine, but it's not clear in the article I'm afraid. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:44, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    - Reference number seven (which because of an interface bug is dubbed eight in the main text) says it. Nousernamesleft^{copper, not wood} 23:35, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Page ranges in citations need en-dash not hyphens.
- Done Nousernamesleft^{copper, not wood} 19:37, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
For #4, "July 07, 1962 – June 15, " has a rogue comma.
- Done
For useful sortable table, consider having From and To columns for the date and make the From column sortable by using the {{dts2}} template (as you currently have).
- I'm not sure why one would want to sort that at all, actually. Nousernamesleft^{copper, not wood} 19:37, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - Well you allow sort on the other columns. But no problem either way. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:50, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"(and other branches of abstract algebra, and topology are generally not present on the six-problem paper." missing closing parentheses?
- Done Nousernamesleft^{copper, not wood} 19:37, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"It also includes the cities which each olympiad was hosted in." - "...the cities in which each olympiad was hosted."
- Done
Do you really think it essential to wikilink "country" to Nation?
- I guess not. Removed. Nousernamesleft^{copper, not wood} 19:37, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Expand GDR, FRG.
- Done Nousernamesleft^{copper, not wood} 19:37, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
My date column is too narrow so it wraps on #6.
- Made wider. Nousernamesleft^{copper, not wood} 19:37, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Why isn't ref 6 in the refs column?
Where's ref [7] in the article?
- Both of the above are interface bugs; ref seven is for some reason dubbed ref 8 in the article. Nousernamesleft^{copper, not wood} 19:37, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Presumably City column should be City/cities?
- Done

That's all I have, it's an oppose for now. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:03, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why no reference for #43 in Glasgow?
- Done Nousernamesleft^{copper, not wood} 23:10, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Order citations in numerical order, you have [6][5] now.
- Done Nousernamesleft^{copper, not wood} 23:10, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Not keen on dates like July 08... July 8 would be fine by me.
- I'll get rid of those while formatting the dates.
"abstract algebra, and topology" no need for comma.
- Done Nousernamesleft^{copper, not wood} 23:10, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man (talk) 18:43, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support - my major concerns addressed. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:42, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment

Why are the dates dd month year - month dd? Particularly why is it date first then month first? It looks all range. Personally I'd go for dd month - dd month year or month dd - month dd year. Peanut4 (talk) 19:43, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- How about year month dd - month dd? Nousernamesleft^{copper, not wood} 19:44, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - That wouldn't work for those running over month than one month, and is still inconsistent. Both the first and second entry need to be either date first or month first. See WP:DATE for full details. Peanut4 (talk) 19:53, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - Sorry don't know what I read first time. Yes year month dd - month dd, would be fine. See WP:DATE for full details of acceptable date formats. Keep them consistent, and it's fine. Peanut4 (talk) 19:58, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - Oh, and you need to check the dates of the first olympiad. It goes back in time at the moment. Peanut4 (talk) 19:55, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    - I reformatted some of the dates, but they didn't show up! You can view the source to verify that I changed it, but the month is still first on the article. I tried purging the server cache, but no result... Nousernamesleft^{copper, not wood} 20:29, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Matthew

Comments

The absence of individual references is extremely conspicuous, but would be less so if that references column was removed. Alternatively, provide page refs, such as <ref>Olson (2004) p. 45</ref>
- People opposed the last FL because of the absence of a refs column. I guess I'll do the latter, then, but be warned, it'll make the refs section look very ugly. Nousernamesleft^{copper, not wood} 18:04, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's odd looking at the header for "#" rendering on three separate lines
- Er, huh? I'm not sure I understand.
  - Maybe it's just my screen then, but # is on one line, [4] is on a second line and the sortable click button is on a third line. Maybe specify a column width? -- ṃ•α•Ł•ṭ•ʰ•Ə•Щ• @ 22:14, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Nousernamesleft^{copper, not wood} 17:10, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What happened to the sorting of the dates?
- Someone said that it was unnecessary in the last FL, so I made it unsortable.
What is the "six-probem paper"?
- Clarified. Nousernamesleft^{copper, not wood} 18:04, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"include medals for roughly the top half " is vague and unencyclopedic
- Fixed. Nousernamesleft^{copper, not wood} 18:04, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The Lead should be expanded to at least two paragraphs
- Split. Nousernamesleft^{copper, not wood} 18:04, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Lastly, I can't help feeling this list could be expanded somewhat with the inclusion of winners perhaps
- Like I said in the previous FL. Nousernamesleft^{copper, not wood} 18:04, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

-- ṃ•α•Ł•ṭ•ʰ•Ə•Щ• @ 00:57, 30 March, 2008

I don't know why but I'm not "feeling" this list, even though there's nothing wrong with it and it does, after all, meet the criteria, is well written, and follows the MOS and all other policies and guidelines. Support. -- ṃ•α•Ł•ṭ•ʰ•Ə•Щ• @ 06:18, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good list, but the reference for the 2001 competition is about the 2000 one instead. weburiedoursecrets inthegarden 08:46, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Fixed. Nousernamesleft^{copper, not wood} 23:06, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Right. Support then, good job. weburiedoursecrets inthegarden 16:38, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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