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The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 12:25, 20 January 2023 (UTC) [1].[reply]

List of Los Angeles Chargers starting quarterbacks

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Nominator(s): Harper J. Cole (talk) 22:40, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A list of every quarterback to start at least one game for the Los Angeles Chargers. I've added details on the reasons why the Chargers have changed their quarterbacks over the years, plus citations. Hopefully up to FL standard. Harper J. Cole (talk) 22:43, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • "Kemp was waived" - what does this mean? Is there an appropriate link?
  • "Hadl was named the starter after playing well in relief" - what is relief? Is there an appropriate link?
  • "after playing well in relief in the in Week 12" - couple of stray words in there
  • "Leaf, the #2 overall pick the 1998 NFL draft" - think the word "in" is missing
  • "Whelihan was cut" - what does this mean? What did he get cut by?
  • "didn't re-sign" => "did not re-sign"
  • "Summary by quarterback" table is completely unsourced
  • No explanation on the last table of what "Comp", "Att", "Yds", etc mean
  • That's what I got! :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:38, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks - I've gone through these changes. Harper J. Cole (talk) 13:51, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:40, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Accessibility review (MOS:DTAB)

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  • Tables need captions, which allow screen reader software to jump straight to named tables without having to read out all of the text before it each time. Visual captions can be added by putting |+ caption_text as the first line of the table code; if that caption would duplicate a nearby section header, you can make it screen-reader-only by putting |+ {{sronly|caption_text}} instead.
  • The part you're not going to like, though: as per MOS:COLHEAD, those neat mid-table column headers aren't accessible. Screen readers do weird things with them, both because they're cells to which the top headers don't apply, and because you made them actual headers which is going to read weirdly for every cell below them. If you want to keep them, split the first table into three tables, otherwise they have to go.
  • The post-season table is missing column scopes for all column header cells, which in combination with row scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Column scopes can be added by adding !scope=col to each header cell, e.g. ! style="{{NFLPrimaryStyle|Los Angeles Chargers|border=2}};"|Season || style... becomes !scope=col style="{{NFLPrimaryStyle|Los Angeles Chargers|border=2}};"|Season (linebreak)!scope=col style....
  • The Summary by quarterback table was messed up, but it was quicker to just fix it then try to explain- you were trying to have some columns take 2 rows when the second row didn't exist.
  • Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear. I don't return to these reviews until the nomination is ready to close, so ping me if you have any questions. --PresN 00:57, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks - changes now made. Harper J. Cole (talk) 21:29, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • You need to put 'plainrowheaders' next to wikitable to prevent the years from bolding. I've done the primary table as an example
  • "Herrmann started in Weeks 11 and 16 due to two separate Fouts injuries." feel like 'Fouts injuries' should be changed to 'injuries to Fouts.' The way it's written suggests that these are types of injuries rather than injuries sustained by the player
  • "two separate Humphries injuries" again here
  • I think you can keep the key to the summary table showing all the time. Not really sure what the point of hiding it is seeing as a casual reader, such as me, will need to know what the columns in the table represent
  • Ed Luther and Mark Herrmann need en dashes adding to the period column in the summary by quarterback table
  • The colours on the passing table are obscuring the sort keys. I understand why you're using them, but it might be worth removing them so people know they can sort the table
  • Sources look fine, but in some places, you have a mix of DD-MM-YY and MM-DD-YY. As an Englishman, the DD-MM-YY doesn't bother me but it probably should be MM-DD-YY given it's an article about an American team. At the very least you need to stick to one form or another. Ref 4 and 165 are examples of ones that need changing

That's all from me. I also have a list that could with a review here if you've got the time :) NapHit (talk) 13:38, 28 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks - I've made these changes. Harper J. Cole (talk) 00:37, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • "Friesz won the starting job in a preseason contest with Tolliver." Reword this, perhaps something along the lines of "Friesz won the starting job after outperforming Tolliver in a preseason game"
  • "Brees was benched for poor form after starting the first eight games" change to "Brees was benched for poor performance after starting the first eight games"
  • "Rivers was allowed to go to the Indianapolis Colts in free agency" To go to is clunky wording, change to something along the lines of "Rivers was allowed to leave for the Indianapolis Colts in free agency" or "Rivers was allowed to join the Indianapolis Colts in free agency"

That's all I've got, I always liked Rivers when I was growing up and Herbert is incredible to watch, so I'm glad to see this list is so well sourced and informative.--Newtothisedit (talk) 01:31, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks - edits made. Harper J. Cole (talk) 20:23, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Source review passed; promoting. --PresN 01:09, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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