Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of New York Mets managers/archive1

The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by User:Matthewedwards 19:31, 28 October 2008 [1].

List of New York Mets managers

The article lists all the New York Mets managers starting in 1962 when the franchise began. I believe that this list meets the FL criteria.--Black Watch 21 02:53, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose – lead is entirely unsourced. Current references need to provide a publisher and an access date; see {{cite web}} for more details. — sephiroth bcr ^(converse) 03:52, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Source statements that need sourcing in the lead, including "Their nicknames included The Amazin' Mets, The Amazins, and The Metropolitans." Format the references per WP:CITE/ES. Gary King (talk) 06:11, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I sourced the lead and perfected the {{cite web}}. I think everything is alright now. BW21.--Black Watch 21 20:22, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Concealed year-links in the table: how will readers know that they're not just trivial year-page links? Can you at least put a note in the key that they lead to year in ...? Tony (talk) 03:03, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments Sources look good. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 16:23, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- This list is modeled off of List of New York Jets head coaches which is a FL and after reviewing their FL request the the trivial year page link didn't seem to be a problem but I'll look into it. BW21.--Black Watch 21 19:26, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Killervogel5

Still many uncited statements in the lead.
Change "Reference" column in the table to "Ref" to save space.
Jerry Manuel is the current manager, hence the title of the list. Image captions should be changed; there is a difference in baseball between coaching and managing. Also, captions should be reformatted so they don't look like comma splices.
No playoff records at all? Totally unacceptable. See List of Philadelphia Phillies managers rather than a football list.
Writing Hall of Fame and color coding it and having in the key... very redundant. Remove from the awards section; this is better used for Manager of the Year, etc.
"7th game"->"seventh game"
The lead seems like it's missing a paragraph of... well, I don't know what. Just seems quite short.
Games coached should be changed to games managed; likewise "GC" to "GM".
Websites are not publishers. Change baseballhalloffame.org to National Baseball Hall of Fame, baseball-reference.com to Baseball Reference or Sports Reference, LLC (latter preferred) as publishers, and etc. the whole way down.
If you are going to use the Mets navbox, then the link to the managers article needs to come directly here without a redirect. That's the point of the navbox.

Currently, I strongly oppose this list, and that's not the Phillies fan talking.

Oppose from Killervogel5

Comment - I think that critical information in any manager list is World Championships, League Pennants and playoff appearances. I think this information ought to be incorporated to get to FL class, either for columns to list (or at least count) such items, or at least for that information to be included in the comments column. Rlendog (talk) 03:43, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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