Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Shugo Chara! episodes/archive1

The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by Scorpion0422 23:26, 28 April 2009 [1].

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List of Shugo Chara! episodes

Nominator(s): Farix (Talk)

• Featured list candidates/List of Shugo Chara! episodes/archive1

After working on again, off again on this article. I feel that it is now ready to be promoted as a Featured List. I believe that it conforms to all of the featured list criteria, as well as project-specific guidelines and meets the standards set by other featured lists for anime television series, such as List of Ah! My Goddess episodes (season 1). --Farix (Talk) 13:15, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Comments from Goodraise (talk · contribs)

• See also section goes above references.
• References 12-15 don't need to be cited. Place them as general references to increase visual appeal.
• The date format is inconsistent.
• The publisher should always be "Amazon.com" regardless of what language.
• "The collectable artbox of the first DVD release in Japan." - This is not a sentence, so remove the period.
• Why is the summary of episode 24 so much shorter than all the others?
• "Shugo Chara! – Official website (Japanese)" - This appears to be about the whole franchise, therefore it belongs on the main article, not on the episode list.
• The |title= parameter is not freestyle. Titles should not be translated or simply describe what the page shows.
• Do not use {{nihongo}} for terms and names that are linked. The kanji should be given on the linked pages, not here.
• "Each episode begins with a quote in English: "All kids have an egg in their soul, the egg of their hearts, their would-be selves, yet unseen."" - What is the purpose of this? It doesn't seem to help me understand the article.
• In general, the first paragraph, starting from "The story follows", is confusing and unhelpful. (See MOS:BEGIN.)
• "The first episode, "A Guardian Character is Born!" (しゅごキャラ誕生! Shugo Kyara Tanjō!?), was first broadcast"
• "The first episode... concluded on September 27, 2008" - You mean the season/series, right?
• "concluded on September 27, 2008 with the fifty-first episode, "I'll Get the Embryo!" (エンブリオをこの手に! Enburio o Kono Te ni!?)."

More comments later. -- Goodraise (talk) 13:58, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Added some comments. Will be back with more. -- Goodraise (talk) 12:11, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

My understanding is that airdates have to be directly cited via inline citations. As for the shortness of episode 24's summary, that is because it is a recap episode with little plot development. Episode 44 is similarly short for the same reasons, but it contains additional plot development that episode 24 didn't have. The other issues have been fixed. --Farix (Talk) 14:19, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm inclined to agree with Goodraise here; not a single episode list cites every single episode date; it messes with the table formatting. Further, the top bar of the table is uncentered; "Director", "Writer", and "Original airdate" look off-center. Finally, see if the "See also" section can be incorporated into the prose in the lead; List of Shugo Chara! characters is already linked several times in the episode summaries I'd expect, and the sequel's mention in the lead can link directly to the episode list. I may have further comments later. ɳOCTURNEɳOIR _{talk // contribs} 15:06, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Airdates are normally not controversial or likely to be challenged. That makes referencing them a question of visual appeal and common sense. List of One Piece episodes (season 5) cites every airdate, because it uses a different references for each of them. List of The Adventures of Mini-Goddess episodes cites the column because it makes no sense to sub-section the references for only one item. List of Bleach episodes (season 9) does not cite at all. -- Goodraise (talk) 15:21, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Give that referencing of airdates have been a issue in other Feature Lists, especially after the status of ANN's encyclopedia was lowered to non-reliable, I would be extremely hesitant to remove these references from the list. --Farix (Talk) 15:43, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Nobody is suggesting that. Removing the citations doesn't mean removing the references. Just look at List of Bleach episodes (season 9)#References and you'll see what we're talking about. -- Goodraise (talk) 15:46, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Oppose from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs) Prose is not up to standards. Examples:

• "People view Amu Hinamori as a "cool and spicy" girl; she is actually timid and easily scared. The next morning, after wishing" "The next morning"—There is no mention of the day before, why "next" morning?
• "for the courage to be her "would-be" self," What is her "would-be self"? Please elaborate.
• "whom Amu develops a crush on and confesses to in front of the entire school after a Character Change." What is she confessing to? Is "Character Change" supposed to be capitalized?'
• "Others are also interested in the eggs as Ikuto Tsukiyomi and his Guardian Character, Yoru, attempts to steal them." "as" is ambiguous here, try "Others are also interested in the eggs; Ikuto Tsukiyomi and his Guardian Character, Yoru, attempts to steal them."
• "One of the eggs hatch and Ran, Amu's Guardian Character, emerges to help Amu out and along with the Humpty Lock, stolen by Ikuto earlier, Character Transforms into Amulet Heart. " Not grammatical. What is stolen?
• "Nadeshiko Fujisaki invites Amu to tea at the Royal Garden with the Student Council Guardians, along with a message from Tadase that he will tell her about the Heart's Egg." The parallel sentence structure is off. Right now, you have "Fujisaki invites Amu to tea ... along with a message", which sounds like he invites the Amu and the message. Dabomb87 (talk) 21:56, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

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