Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Silver Slugger Award winners at catcher/archive1
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The list was promoted by Matthewedwards 20:37, 21 April 2009 [1].
And yet another Silver Slugger list. Comments to be addressed by me, etc., etc. Cheers. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 00:22, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - I've done a bit of script-assisted cleanup. –Juliancolton | Talk 00:28, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I found no issues except one...
Piazza holds several Major League records for catchers in a Silver Slugger-winning season, most set in 1997. how about adding the before most set?--Truco 15:38, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- That wouldn't be proper grammar. I can see an alternative: "Piazza holds several Major League records for catchers in a Silver Slugger-winning season; most were set in 1997." The other alternative I see would become quite redundant. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 15:44, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I think that's what I was aiming for. Change away.Truco 15:56, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 16:04, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- This list, like the others, meets WP:WIAFL.--Truco 16:56, 9 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Only one minor issue here: the caption for Russell Martin's photo. There's an unneeded also, and I'd move "as a catcher" to the end of the caption. Other than that, it looks great. Giants2008 (17-14) 00:24, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I removed the 'also'. The wording was intended to emphasize the rarity of a catcher stealing 20 bases which is why I wrote it that way. If you still think it needs to be changed, I can do it, but I just wanted that to be clear. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 02:00, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 15:20, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 02:47, 11 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment As a reader who doesn't know everything about MLB, what's a Major League leader at catcher? -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]]call me Keith 06:20, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- "Major League leader", in the environment of these lists, is the leader throughout all of Major League Baseball in Silver Slugger wins; the position name is provided for clarity. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 11:54, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Could you make the statement more clearer, since I didn't get get at first, and neither will some of the other readers. -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]]call me Keith 15:08, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't know how to make it clearer; the other lists have passed in this format. I thought that "Major League leader" was pretty clear to begin with. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 16:12, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- How about "most Silver Slugger Awards at catcher"? Also, I think a multiple winners section would be nice. -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]]call me Keith 16:18, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- To the first, that leaves it vague as to whether it references by league or throughout all of MLB. How about "Winner of the most Silver Sluggers in Major League Baseball as a catcher"? To the second, the lead already outlines all players who have won the award multiple times; it seems to be overkill and article clutter to write it again when the sortability function shows it with a single click. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 16:39, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Your suggestion is OK, as long as I can understand it. For the second, isn't putting "Major League leader at catcher" an overkill too? -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]]call me Keith 16:42, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I suppose it could be seen that way; however, I feel it to be an essential element to denote visually in the list. Creating an entire other list to say something that's already said serves no purpose in my mind. I'm not creating another list to denote who the leader is, just noting it, because it's an important fact. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 19:07, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
So are you going to add "Winner of the most Silver Sluggers in Major League Baseball as a catcher"? -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]]call me Keith 00:27, 22 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Done now, was visiting family and had no computer access. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 01:42, 22 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- The first paragraph in the lead is copied from the general Silver Slugger Award list. This should be a little more specific about the catchers and should definitely be changed to have its own creativity.--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 09:18, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm fully aware that it's a copy. All of the lists of Silver Slugger winners start this ways; four have already been promoted in this format. It's boilerplate text used to explain the award. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 11:52, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Agree with KV5 here. The first paragraph establishes context; since these lists are about the same award, there is nothing wrong with the repetition. Dabomb87 (talk) 12:10, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm fully aware that it's a copy. All of the lists of Silver Slugger winners start this ways; four have already been promoted in this format. It's boilerplate text used to explain the award. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 11:52, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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