Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of UEFA Cup Winners' Cup winning managers
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The list was promoted 02:23, 17 March 2008.
Based on the other two lists (UEFA Cup and European Cup/Champions League winning managers), this is the final member of the triumvirate. I'd appreciate as many comments (and support!) as humanly possible, and I promise to attend to them as soon as I get bandwidth >2Kb/s. Thanks in advance for your time and energy in looking at this! The Rambling Man (talk) 21:41, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved stuff from Drewcifer
Comments Looks pretty good. I do have some suggestions/concerns:
- My biggest concern is that literally every source is from the UEFA itself. Or in other words, the article completely lacks third-party sources.
- Working on that one... The Rambling Man (talk) 17:26, 10 March 2008 (UTC)*The in-line citations are over wikilinked. Only the first instance of a publisher value should be wikilinked.[reply]
- Per the other two lists, I'll disagree here. Can't believe it'd be a deal breaker...?! The Rambling Man (talk) 17:26, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Why is Aad de Mos in the lead, while the others are beside the table? I'd recommend putting him down there with the others.
- Well, he's a landscape rather than a portrait, but I've moved him anyway, kept his sizing per MOS and that's that! The Rambling Man (talk) 17:26, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The lead should include a bolded description of the page.
- I'd recommend centering the Final column.
- The flag columns are great, but they are a little big confusing. It's not entirely obvious which other columns they apply to. On one hand I'd say give it a column header, but that would kind of ruin the functionality... any ideas?
- Per other two FLCs, discussion with Struway2 didn't come up with any decent results.. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:26, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Another problem with the flags is that the link to the image, not the country. Again, I don't have a solution up my sleeve, but that seems like a problem.
- Per other two FLCs, the {{sort}} template simply can't cope... The Rambling Man (talk) 17:26, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- An external links section would be nice. Drewcifer (talk) 22:11, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- You have a section now, I'll work on expanding it further... The Rambling Man (talk) 17:26, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Conditional Support Looks good, though the lead still needs to have a bolded first line. Take care of that and you're good to go. Drewcifer (talk) 11:02, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Conditional support Looks very good. I've bolded the first line, but otherwise the only thing I would recommend is to create articles for the red-linked managers. Peanut4 (talk) 22:51, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support All redlinks addressed. Peanut4 (talk) 18:44, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Definitely. I'll get on with it. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:26, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Matthew
Comments
- I agree with Peanut about the redlinks
- Me too.. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:26, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Maybe a little information about why the UEFA Cup Winners' Cup ended in 1999, and what it became (with a link)
- I'll look into that... The Rambling Man (talk) 17:26, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Again for consistency, I'd like to see a sentence about how many managers took a team not from their own country to victory. Either that, or remove it from the first article you nominated.
- The key difference is that the UEFA Cup has been won predominantly by managers leading clubs of their own nationality. The other two cups don't share that same distinction. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:26, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Should "Scotsman" link to Scotland, or Scottish people?
- Linked per you... The Rambling Man (talk) 17:26, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Same with "Hungarian" and "Swede"
- Linked per you... The Rambling Man (talk) 17:26, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Is there an image of Sven to go in the lead because he was the last manager to win it. Or Nándor Hidegkuti as he was the first.
- No, I've scoured Commons, Flickr, and Wikipedia for fair use or free images... nothing I can do about that (unless I become a stalker!) The Rambling Man (talk) 17:26, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Why "West Ham Unt", but "Manchester United"?
- That appears to have been fixed in my absence! The Rambling Man (talk) 17:26, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- And either "FC" or "F.C."
- Those differ due to the official names of the clubs... The Rambling Man (talk) 17:26, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Well written, sourced, presented. Meets criteria. -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 19:26, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - "The last final of the competition was held in 1999 after UEFA abolished the competition" I know what you mean, but it reads funny that it took place after it was abolished. Also, I count 4 wins by Scots and 2 Scottish club titles, but the table says 3 - something wrong there. --Dweller (talk) 22:47, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Think I've dealt with it... The Rambling Man (talk) 07:52, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Another goodie. I'm wondering if the Lead could do with a sentence explaining the premise of the competition, but it's certainly not essential. Good work TRM. --Dweller (talk) 10:34, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Done... thanks. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:38, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support all good ChrisTheDude (talk) 21:00, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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