Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Vice Presidents of the United States/archive1
- The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page. No further edits should be made to this page. The closing editor's comments were: 19 days, 3 support, 2 oppose. No consensus to promote. Fail. Raime 02:03, 12 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I am nominating this list because it is informative, neat, and important. Few people know about vice-presidents and if they look at this list not only will they learn all the vice-presidents but they will have a pictoral representation of that individual in their brain.--Southern Texas 21:44, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Support, as the nominator--Southern Texas 21:44, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Conditional OpposeSupport: I'm not sure about the break-out by century. For one thing, the breaks add very little to the list. For another, I'd like to see the list as sortable, which it can't be when broken up. Anyone else feel that way? -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 03:25, 25 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]- I removed the splits, I don't know why that was done since many of the vice-presidencies spanned two different centuries.--Southern Texas 03:52, 25 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- A sortable list would definitely be helpful here. Nishkid64 (talk) 04:04, 26 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I removed the splits, I don't know why that was done since many of the vice-presidencies spanned two different centuries.--Southern Texas 03:52, 25 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- It is now sortable.--Southern Texas 20:39, 26 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks - that looks great! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 16:00, 29 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Footnote 7 somehow needs more explanation. I understand they could have been President for just a few hours--many readers might not know this. Maybe separate footnotes for each VP are needed, providing the dates/times they were President. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hmains (talk • contribs)
- You could just create a "References" section at the bottom and add a link that contains a complete list of vice presidents, and includes their dates in office, etc. Also I agree with Hmains. The footnotes need to be explained/clarified. Nishkid64 (talk) 06:58, 27 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Could you explain what you mean by a separate "references" section? Also I don't think that every single time the 25th Amendment was invoked that I should explain since there is a separate page about that Acting President of the United States#Invocations of 25th Amendment, I will link this article in the footnote but I think this page should strictly be about the office of Vice President.--Southern Texas 21:45, 27 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- One section for Notes, one section for References. See List of New York Jets first-round draft picks for example. Also, it would be best to explain the circumstances of the 25th amendment. Lists should be comprehensive, so I think it would be appropriate to explain the situation in detail (a few lines will suffice). Nishkid64 (talk) 21:48, 27 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Good so far, but who invoked the 25th? The VP as implied by the footnote language or the President? Hmains 01:14, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- One section for Notes, one section for References. See List of New York Jets first-round draft picks for example. Also, it would be best to explain the circumstances of the 25th amendment. Lists should be comprehensive, so I think it would be appropriate to explain the situation in detail (a few lines will suffice). Nishkid64 (talk) 21:48, 27 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Could you explain what you mean by a separate "references" section? Also I don't think that every single time the 25th Amendment was invoked that I should explain since there is a separate page about that Acting President of the United States#Invocations of 25th Amendment, I will link this article in the footnote but I think this page should strictly be about the office of Vice President.--Southern Texas 21:45, 27 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- You could just create a "References" section at the bottom and add a link that contains a complete list of vice presidents, and includes their dates in office, etc. Also I agree with Hmains. The footnotes need to be explained/clarified. Nishkid64 (talk) 06:58, 27 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose
- Lead is too short
- Sorting breaks in several instances: try sorting by "took office", all the vacancies are bunching, and ordering is wrong; or by Home state, some vacancies are after "Maine" other near "California".
- Formatting is far too fancy, making the vacancies almost invisible
- Parties are overlinked (besides, they're linked at the top of the list.)
- References need proper formatting. Right now they're just a list of external links.
- Circeus 03:43, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong Oppose The sorting is a mess. Try hitting any sorting button, and then try and get it back to the default positions (1-46). It's impossible. Half the buttons don't even work. Also the lead is far too short (howabout explaining the vacancies, as well as a quick summary of what the VP actually does. Drewcifer 23:11, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]