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List of World Heritage Sites in Sudan

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List of World Heritage Sites in Sudan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Nominator(s): Tone 06:04, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sudan has three WHS and 15 sites on the tentative list. Standard style. The list for Tunisia has just been promoted, the list for Botswana (where I am the co-nominator) is seeing some support already so I am adding a new nomination. Tone 06:04, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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MPGuy2824
  • "which existed over a millennium" - Add some rough dates here.
  • "contains the Meidob volcanic field (satellite image pictured), the Jebel Rahib hills, "
  • "The park significant from the natural point of view because" to "The park is biologically significant because"
  • "The area is a desert and semi desert with sand dunes." Needs fixing depending on what you want to say.
  • " seat of medieval Christian bishops"
  • "rededicated to Aten under Akhenaten." to "rededicated to Aten, during the rule of Akhenaten."
  • "left by the pilgrims through the centuries."
  • Bit weird to have both "Wadi Hower National Park - Gala Abou Ahmed (mixed natural and cultural site)" and "Wadi Hower National Park". Would need an explanation. Also, the my second point applies here too since the text is quite similar. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:59, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Fixed, thanks! As for the two Wadi Hower listings, it appears that they updated the nomination but did not remove the old one (which would be a reasonable thing to do). I've seen it before in some cases, but it is rare. Since technically these are two distinct nominations, although overlapping, I would leave it as it is. Maybe I'll add a note on the second one. Tone 08:06, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • "The first site in Sudan was listed in 2003, this was Jebel Barkal and the associated sites." - I think "The first site to be listed in Sudan was Jebel Barkal and the associated sites in 2003." would work better
  • "which existed over a millennium" => "which existed for over a millennium""
  • "and Middle East" => "and the Middle East"
  • "in the 3rd and 2nd millennium BCE" => "in the 3rd and 2nd millennia BCE"
  • "It was dedicated to archangel Raphael." => "It was dedicated to the archangel Raphael."
  • "between the 6th and 1st millennium BCE" => "between the 6th and 1st millennia BCE"
  • Plus what MPGuy said :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:22, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Fixed all, thanks! Tone 08:03, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:58, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Image Review by Fritzmann

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  • File:Gebel Barkal.jpg is a credible own-work, properly licensed under GNU Free.
  • File:Sudan Meroe Pyramids 30sep2005 10.jpg is a valid Flickr import, checked by an admin as having the proper license.
  • File:Suakin,el-Geyf mosque.jpg is a credible own-work, properly licensed under CC 3.0.
  • File:Kerma city.JPG is a credible own-work, properly licensed under GNU Free.
  • File:Church of the Granite Columns 2007-10-03 01.jpg has a 404 link, but another image uploaded in the same batch was checked and confirmed to be properly licensed as CC2.0, and the author's other works are similarly licensed.
  • ☒N Strangely, File:Malha Wells, Sudan by Planet Labs.jpg appears to have been removed from its original gallery. However, all other images on the site are licensed as CC-BY-NC, which is not usable on Wikipedia. It looks like there are a lot of these images on Commons, so this may be a bigger problem than just this article. Will need a replacement for this image.
  • Question? File:نهر الدندر من الطائرة.JPG is properly licensed, but it is not a particularly good image. Are there any possible images of the park not on Commons that could be used instead?
  • File:Africa Mt Dair.jpg is a public domain NASA image
  • File:Sudan Jebel Marra Deriba Lakes edited.jpg has some minor license format issues but nothing that necessitates exclusion
  • File:Kerma-Deffufa.jpg is a credible own-work, properly licensed under GNU Free.
  • File:Soleb1.jpg is a credible own-work, properly licensed under CC 4.0.
  • File:Banganarti 2013 .jpg is a credible own-work, properly licensed under CC 4.0.

Just two images with an issue, please ping when you have seen and responded. Thanks! Fritzmann (message me) 15:11, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for checking. As for the first one, I suppose it is better to remove it altogether since I cannot find a better image on Commons that does not have that issue. File:Nile Map Sudan.png is possible but I am trying to avoid maps. As for the second one, the other relevant image is File:الدندر.jpg, which is equally non-ideal. I don't mind removing them both since a FL would ideally have good images. What do you think? Tone 15:29, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would at least remove the first image; if there aren't any alternatives for the second I think it is OK to leave. Once the first is removed I am happy to support on images. Fritzmann (message me) 15:54, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Done, thanks! Tone 16:02, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AK

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  • "Sudan accepted the convention" I'd use "ratified" instead.
  • "Jebel Barkal and the associated sites" to "Jebel Barkal and its associated sites"?
  • "The sites of...in 2016." should be either "The sites of Meroë and Sanganeb Marine National Park and Dungonab Bay – Mukkawar Island Marine National Park were listed in 2011 and 2016, respectively." or "The site of Meroë was listed in 2011 and Sanganeb Marine National Park and Dungonab Bay – Mukkawar Island Marine National Park in 2016."
  • "The latter is a natural site" isn't "latter" just for lists of two objects?
  • "The archaeological area in" to "This archaeological area in"?
  • "Jebel Barkal...sacred mountain" to "Jebel Barkal, which has the Temple of Amun at its foot, was considered a sacred mountain."
  • "Monuments include temples" to "Monuments in the area include temples"?
  • "Some aspects of burial practices" You don't mention any funerary practices earlier, so this doesn't really fit well. I'd go with something like "The pyramids and burial chambers of the site are an 'outstanding example of funerary architecture'. Some aspects of this funerary tradition remained in use until the 6th century".
  • "ruled Egypt Egypt" typo.
  • "The park has...2004." to "The park was previously listed on the tentative list in 2004."? Also, if it was already on the tenative list, why did they have to relist it?
  • That's all I have. AryKun (talk) 11:55, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks! I fixed the ones that I think fit, some of them I think are fine as they are. Funerary practices refer to tombs that are mentioned in the previous sentence. The two natural reserves are a single WH site, with two components, thus singular. The 2004 thing just means that they didn't do the cleanup of the list, but we cannot do much here, both are still on the list :) Tone 09:38, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey man im josh

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  • Source review:
    • Reliable enough for the information being cited
    • Consistent date formatting
    • Consistent and proper reference formatting
    • Appropriate wikilinks where applicable
    • Spot checks on sources match what they are being cited for

Source review passed. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:51, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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