Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of World War II aces from Finland

List of World War II aces from Finland

I would like to nominate this article as I believe that it is complete and that it won't see any substantial changes in the future.

It fulfills all criterias listed. It is accurate as far as today's research goes. The victories are sometimes adjusted afterwards when new material is available and that is also the case with this one - the numbers were corrected when entry to former Soviet archives was given in the 1990s. The article is stable and logically constructed. It has a concise lead section that describes its content. The images have also acceptable copyright status. --MoRsE 19:43, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The period/full stop is used as the decimal separator on English Wikipedia, not the comma. The first two columns of the first table have no headings. Also regarding that table, I would expect to see total victories somewhere more prominent. Perhaps name, total victories, breakdown, squadrons and notes - last of all. I prefer to see a key at the beginning of a long table rather than having to scroll all the way down to the bottom of the table or bottom of the page to see if it exists and then all the way back up. Rmhermen 21:39, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- A : I have now tried to address the problems. The commas were a leftover that I forgot to change from my corresponding Swedish article. I have now also moved the columns in the suggested order. --MoRsE 22:21, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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- Comment:
  - Plain text introduction could be much longer.
  - The tables interfere with the infobox - bad layout.
  - The tables could benefit from some color to make it easier to keep track of the crevices and usually the header is also colored. I suggest to take the standard color of military history infoboxes for the header of each table and a much lighter shade of it for the crevices.
  - Every single number has to be referenced for verifiability. Shouldn't be too much trouble with these two books.Wandalstouring 13:02, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Several issues:

The lead needs to be expanded. It should at least include the definition of "ace" and a few sentences describing the Finnish Air Force's involvement in WWII.
Is the infobox necessary? It messes up the formatting for me, the first table is pushed down. The lead should contain a link to the Finnish Air Force article, which would make the infobox unneccesary.
I'm not at all familiar with air forces and such, and the column headings of the first table confuse me. I'm assuming "Fokker D.XXI", "Gloster Gladiator", etc. are planes. Do the numbers indicate how many of those planes the ace shot down? If so, why are there some half numbers (e.g. 2.5, 6.5)? This should be explained in a few sentences before the table. The plane types, if that's what they are, should be linked. Also, there should be a brief explanation of what the "Mannerheim Cross" is and why it is important enough to be included in the table.
Okay, reading down a bit I see that "Fokker D.XXI", "Gloster Gladiator", etc. are indeed planes. Does "won victories with the Fokker D.XXI" mean "won victories while flying the Fokker D.XXI" or "won victories against the Fokker D.XXI"?
The tables after the first one present a sorted view of information that was already included in the first table. If you make the first table sortable (see National debt by U.S. presidential terms for an example) then the other tables become redundant.

Jwillbur 01:16, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]