Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of battleships of Italy/archive1
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The list was promoted by Hahc21 10:01, 2 November 2013 (UTC) [1].[reply]
List of battleships of Italy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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- Nominator(s): Parsecboy (talk) 17:46, 16 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Another in my "list of warships" series, this list is for the modern battleships built by the Italian Navy, starting with the first pre-dreadnoughts. The list has been reviewed at a Milhist A-class reveiw (see here). Thanks for all who take the time to review this list. Parsecboy (talk) 17:46, 16 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support Comments
- I think you mean naval gunfire support rather than coastal artillery support
- Fixed.
- Need a cite for revolutionary nature of Dreadnought.
- You mean in the lead? It's covered by the cite in the Regina Elena section.
- This seems awkward: Therefore, a new battleship that could match the firepower of the dreadnought battleships was needed. Perhaps something along the lines of: "a dreadnought-type of battleship was needed"
- See how it reads now.
- Fate of Dante Aligheri should be added to the lede.
- Added.
- What about fates of the Conte di Cavour and Andrea Doria classes?
- Also added.
- Would indecision be a better word here: confusion in the naval design staff
- Sure.
- Rhodes is more appropriately placed in the Aegean, not the Mediterranean.
- Fixed.
- Link magazine
- Done.
- Pictures are appropriately licensed.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 03:50, 6 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the review, Sturm. Parsecboy (talk) 12:27, 7 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Good to go.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 13:44, 7 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm nowhere near as certain on the images, as Italian copyright law is ... weird. First, you need to prove that it's a "simple photograph". I don't think this is a stopping point, as warship profiles were common and may not meet the "artistic merit or reflections of photographer creativity or personality" criterion. Second, Italy's laws do not jive well at all with US copyrights. For basically all of those images, you have to prove that they were taken before 1976 (easy) and make a reasonable argument that it wasn't published in the US before 1978 (hard). Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 01:58, 30 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Hmm, based on this, it seems the threshold for originality isn't an issue - Italy's is quite low. The problem is going to be a pre-1923 date of publication or a pre-1978 date with no notice of copyright. I'll have to see what I can dig up, but it looks like the WWII photos are going to have to go, at the very least. Parsecboy (talk) 12:30, 30 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm nowhere near as certain on the images, as Italian copyright law is ... weird. First, you need to prove that it's a "simple photograph". I don't think this is a stopping point, as warship profiles were common and may not meet the "artistic merit or reflections of photographer creativity or personality" criterion. Second, Italy's laws do not jive well at all with US copyrights. For basically all of those images, you have to prove that they were taken before 1976 (easy) and make a reasonable argument that it wasn't published in the US before 1978 (hard). Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 01:58, 30 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Good to go.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 13:44, 7 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the review, Sturm. Parsecboy (talk) 12:27, 7 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
CommentsSupport- Re Regina Elena class, 21 knots = 'Dreadnought.
- Ah yes, speed should be 22 knots.
- "Ultimately, she was broken up for scrap in 1926" - yeah but that's not what the table says. ;-)
- Ah, good eye. Fixed now.
- Otherwise it looks pretty good to me. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 01:58, 30 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for reviewing the list, Ed. Parsecboy (talk) 12:30, 30 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Re Regina Elena class, 21 knots = 'Dreadnought.
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