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List of operettas by John Philip Sousa

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Nominator(s): Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 23:28, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A recently created list of John Philip Sousa's operettas. The formatting and other aspects of this list are similar to List of marches by John Philip Sousa. Meets FL criteria in my view. Looking forward to Chris and the Wonderful Comments – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 23:28, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by ChrisTheDude

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  • "Most of Sousa's operettas showed the influence of Gilbert and Sullivan. Sousa used few characteristics of their style" - they show the influence of G+S but don't use their style? I don't follow this, can you clarify?
  • "Several prominent stage personalities, including DeWolf Hopper, were starred" => "Several prominent stage personalities, including DeWolf Hopper, starred"
  • "Sousa composed Katherine, his first opera, in 1879" - opera or operetta?
  • "portrayed the Spanish administration in Peru which became hugely popular during the Spanish–American War" - the administration became popular? Or the concept of portraying it?
  • "Mary Andrews Denison agreed to be the librettist for this operetta and composed few songs" - I think this should probably be "Mary Andrews Denison agreed to be the librettist for this operetta and composed a few songs", although "several songs" would probably be better wording
  • "Few of Sousa's later compositions derived their score from the songs of this operetta." - do you actually mean "A few of Sousa's later compositions derived their score from the songs of this operetta."? If so, I again think "several" rather than "a few" would be better
  • "After its premier" - last word is spelt wrongly
  • "It is one of Sousa's most famous operetta." => "It is one of Sousa's most famous operettas."
  • "Although Sousa considered this operetta one of his best work"=> "Although Sousa considered this operetta one of his best works"
  • "In late 1939, "The Goose Girl's Song", a song from this operetta was rearranges" => "In late 1939, "The Goose Girl's Song", a song from this operetta, was rearranged"
  • "Various critics commented on length of the production" => "Various critics commented on the length of the production"
  • That's what I got :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:52, 31 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from TRM

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That's all I have on a quick run, nice list. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 14:58, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@The Rambling Man: Thanks a lot for your review! It is really nice to see you back! All comments resolved. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 15:22, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support my primary concerns addressed. And thanks for your kind comment. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 20:35, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 04:42, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dank

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  • Standard disclaimer: I don't know what I'm doing, and I mostly AGF on sourcing.
  • You repeat "prominent" in the lead ... nothing wrong with that, exactly, but think about whether a different word would work for you.
  • Checking the FLC criteria:
  • 1. I've done a little copyediting; feel free to revert or discuss. The table coding seems fine. I checked sorting on all sortable columns and sampled the links in the table.
  • 2. The lead meets WP:LEAD and defines the inclusion criteria.
  • 3a. The list has comprehensive items and annotations.
  • 3b. It is well-sourced to reliable sources, and the UPSD tool isn't indicating any actual problems (but this isn't a source review). All relevant retrieval dates are present.
  • 3c. It meets requirements as a stand-alone list, it isn't a content fork, it doesn't largely duplicate another article (that I can find), and it wouldn't fit easily inside another article.
  • 4. It is navigable.
  • 5. It meets style requirements. At a glance, the one image looks fine.
  • 6. It is stable.
  • Support. Well done. - Dank (push to talk) 03:43, 1 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Image review - Support
Image was taken circa 1925, so just about in public domain. NFCC fulfilled. No issues found. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 09:13, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot! – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 09:21, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments Support from Wretchskull + Source review - pass

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The article is definitely short enough to prompt checking all citations. I'll take a look tomorrow. Wretchskull (talk) 22:23, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I very much appreciate it! – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 07:16, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Lede
  • In the lede, change "[...] composer and conductor of the Romantic era in the late 19th century" to "[...] composer and conductor of the late Romantic era" - "19th century" is redundant and it isn't exactly true because he also composed in the 20th century.
  • "Primarily known for American military marches, he also wrote operettas" --> "Although primarily known for his American military marches, he also wrote operettas" - the sentence flows better with an adverbial subordinate clause, but it's up to you if you want to change it.
References
  • No copyvio found.
  • Are the retrieval dates really necessary?
  • Spotchecks:
    • Allsen, J. Michael (2000) supports all cited text.
    • Bierley, Paul E (1984): The text at ref 3b is very identical to the source. If you want to copy it word for word, it has to be within quotation marks. If you know that this instance has occurred elsewhere, I recommend you check those locations in case I miss them. Also, perhaps mention that The Victory was also unfinished? Otherwise, the ref supports all cited text.
    • Hess, Carol A. (1998) supports all cited text.
    • Jorgensen, Michael R. (1994) supports all cited text.
    • Keeney, Lisa (2013) supports all cited text. Be the way, I'm surprised this source is only cited once. It is full of excellent information.
    • Kilpatrick, Barry (2021): The name of the source should be "Sousa: Chris & the Wonderful Lamp selections; Sisterhood of the States; Showing Off Before Company". Otherwise, the ref supports all cited text.
    • Warfield, Patrick (2011) supports all cited text.

@Kavyansh.Singh: That's all I have for you. Ping me when you're done. Wretchskull (talk) 19:01, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Wretchskull: Done all, or replied above; Thanks! – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 19:20, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Kavyansh.Singh: Excellent work! Support - Wretchskull (talk) 19:24, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Promoting. --PresN 16:26, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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