Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of participating nations at the Winter Olympic Games
- The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The list was promoted 22:04, 1 April 2008.
Following the successful promotion of List of participating nations at the Summer Olympic Games to featured list status a few days ago, I nominate the related Winter Games list. I have already incorporated into this list the feedback comments I received from the Summer Games list during it's FLC process, so I think this is in pretty good shape already. I'd like to have a second photo, but I can't find any that are public domain. I have found a couple of non-free images from the 2006 Games on Flickr, but I am unsure that they would qualify under WP:FUC for this list. Perhaps I'll upload to get some comments and we can always delete it if necessary. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 19:15, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
- "but were in retrospect designated by the International Olympic Committee (IOC) as the I Olympic Winter Games" Is the "I" misplaced, or is the roman numeral? Also, it needs a reference.
- It's a roman numeral; should I change the formatting to make that clearer? I will add a reference.
- It's just that on my monitor the I appears at the end of a line, and the rest on a new line, so it kinda confused me. -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 04:54, 23 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. Added reference and put
after the "I" to prevent linebreak.
- I know it's usually hard to find references for something that's non-existant, but "These would be the last Winter Games for twelve years, as the planned 1940 Games and 1944 Games were cancelled due to World War II." should be referenceable
- Yup, will do. Actually shouldn't be hard to find.
- Done
- The Summer Games list's history is separated into "pre war", "inter war", "post war and Cold War" and "Recent". Can this be done here?
- Hmm, maybe. There is no pre-war period for the Winter Games, and the biggest reason why I highlighted the Cold War era in the summer article was because of the boycotts, which didn't happen for the Winter Games, so I didn't think it needed to be highlighted as such. I can still see what I can do about breaking up the history into subsections, though.
- Done Expanded history section by also including discussion of winter sports at summer Games prior to 1924, and broke into three sub-sections.
- In the Summer list, it looks like Rep Of China became Taipei, and Taipei became China, but in this list, they compete at the same games.
- Well maybe I need to do something about the summer list! The intention is to display the following sequence: China first competed at the 1932 Summer Games, and that Olympic Committee ended up moving headquarters to Taiwan along with the rest of the nationalist government after the civil war. That NOC competed as the "Republic of China" in the 50s and 60s but it wasn't until after a 1979 resolution that the PRC and the ROC could both compete at the Games, and only if ROC/Taiwan was designated "Chinese Taipei". Now, with respect to the Winter Games specifically, they didn't compete for the first time until 1972, so there is clear continuity between the 1972–1976 appearances as ROC and the 1984– appearances as Chinese Taipei. Every instance was a delegation of Taiwanese competitors only, which is not the case on the summer list, which is why that list is a bit more complicated. So... what should I do to this list to make it clearer? I don't want to introduce the complexity of the summer list as it is not necessary here.
- I don't think anything, if that's the case. -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 04:54, 23 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Make sure the same notes, when applicable, are being used in both lists
- Will do.
- Done
- What does the silver shading mean (like that in ROC)? I would add it to the Key.
- Ah, yeah, that colour is supposed to indicate periods of time when the nation didn't exist in that form, but was represented by another NOC (also used for Soviet Union for 1994-, for example). I will add to the legend.
- Done
That's all -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 21:27, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the feedback; I will get to work on that in the next day or two. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 21:47, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I've addressed all but the China reference. I will think about how to make that clearer. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 18:00, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Welcome -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 04:54, 23 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I believe that this statement, "The Olympic calendar was adjusted so that Winter Games would be held in the second year following the Summer Games, so that they alternate every two years." needs a reference and a date when exactly the calendar was adjusted. Why did they want both Olympics to alternate every two years? This statement also needs to be mentioned in the lead.--Crzycheetah 22:19, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]- Done except for the lead. What do you think needs to be said there? — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 21:07, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- It need to be mentioned in the lead that the interval between two olympics is 4 years with the only exception in 1994 due to the calendar adjustment.--Crzycheetah 22:12, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- How about now? — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 22:22, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Supportt That's what I wanted.--Crzycheetah 22:33, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- It need to be mentioned in the lead that the interval between two olympics is 4 years with the only exception in 1994 due to the calendar adjustment.--Crzycheetah 22:12, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support. At the level of the already featured Summer counterpart list. Parutakupiu (talk) 21:52, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Very nice list, just as good as the Summer one. -- Scorpion0422 22:03, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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