Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of roles and awards of Catherine Zeta-Jones/archive1
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List of roles and awards of Catherine Zeta-Jones (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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- Nominator(s): Krimuk|90 (talk) 09:14, 11 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
One of the loveliest British actresses of all time, Catherine Zeta-Jones is the perfect combination of beauty and staggering talent. This is a listing of her film, television, stage roles, and the awards that she received for them. It is my 20th FLC nomination, and I hope to receive constructive comments for its improvement. Krimuk|90 (talk) 09:14, 11 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- IMDB has a few more awards listed for her. Nergaal (talk) 17:06, 15 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Yeah, but I have only included the ones that meet the WP: Notability criteria. --Krimuk|90 (talk) 04:02, 16 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support Looks an excellent list to me.♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:44, 16 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you. :) Krimuk|90 (talk) 02:27, 17 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Comments Looks good overall. These are my edits; feel free to revert if you disagree with them.
A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 23:19, 25 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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- She was nominated for Worst Actress at the Razzies in 1999 – no mention of that?
- I don't think the Razzies are particularly notable, and most FL-class award pages don't mention them. --Krimuk|90 (talk) 01:42, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- I totally disagree – Razzies are as notable as anything honorable. If actors themselves accept the dishonor, it's high time we also need to include them.
- How is something dishonorable considered a notable award? Some of the best actors have been given the award for some random bad film, and it doesn't add anything notable to their resume. Krimuk|90 (talk) 07:21, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- That's the thing, though – a Wikipedia article is not a résumé. This article needs to be an unbiased look at Catherine Zeta-Jones's notable roles and awards, even the ones that she might find embarrassing. I'd argue that, for that reason, the Razzie needs to be included, but I'll go with consensus. A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 22:49, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Pinging Cowlibob, Dr. Blofeld, SchroCat—who have worked on award lists—too see what they think about the inclusion of Razzies? Krimuk|90 (talk) 04:34, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- I've included it once before in the lead I think for Sandra Bullock's filmography as it was an interesting comparison to her winning an Oscar on the same weekend. I think you don't need to mention it in the lead but should include it in the list of awards/nominations as it is a "notable" award in that it meets WP:GNG. The following two on IMDb should also probably be included: Alliance of Women Film Journalists, Hasty Pudding Woman of the Year. Cowlibob (talk) 09:57, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Alright then, I've added them, A Thousand Doors and Cowlibob. Krimuk|90 (talk) 01:48, 28 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- I've included it once before in the lead I think for Sandra Bullock's filmography as it was an interesting comparison to her winning an Oscar on the same weekend. I think you don't need to mention it in the lead but should include it in the list of awards/nominations as it is a "notable" award in that it meets WP:GNG. The following two on IMDb should also probably be included: Alliance of Women Film Journalists, Hasty Pudding Woman of the Year. Cowlibob (talk) 09:57, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Pinging Cowlibob, Dr. Blofeld, SchroCat—who have worked on award lists—too see what they think about the inclusion of Razzies? Krimuk|90 (talk) 04:34, 27 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- That's the thing, though – a Wikipedia article is not a résumé. This article needs to be an unbiased look at Catherine Zeta-Jones's notable roles and awards, even the ones that she might find embarrassing. I'd argue that, for that reason, the Razzie needs to be included, but I'll go with consensus. A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 22:49, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- How is something dishonorable considered a notable award? Some of the best actors have been given the award for some random bad film, and it doesn't add anything notable to their resume. Krimuk|90 (talk) 07:21, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- I totally disagree – Razzies are as notable as anything honorable. If actors themselves accept the dishonor, it's high time we also need to include them.
- I don't think the Razzies are particularly notable, and most FL-class award pages don't mention them. --Krimuk|90 (talk) 01:42, 26 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Support No other issues from me. I do think there would be a benefit in adding another image (maybe in the TV section), and it would also be worth adding archive-urls to the weblinks to prevent linkrot, but these aren't FL requirements. Great work! A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 22:14, 29 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you. I'll get to archiving some of the links soon. :) Krimuk|90 (talk) 04:04, 30 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support: The list looks faultless to me. I have a few minor prose quibbles from the lead:
- "She soon achieved success by playing roles that relied significantly on her sex appeal in the action film The Mask of Zorro (1998) and the caper thriller Entrapment (1999)" Sentence could do with a comma after "sex appeal". I'd also consider beginning the sentence "She achieved early success by..." etc
- Done.
- "Zeta-Jones' portrayal of a drug lord's wife in Steven Soderbergh's Traffic (2000) garnered her..." Wrong verb choice: things are garnered, but things don't garner, if you see what I mean. Suggest "garnered" → "gained"
- Done.
- I see you spell "Favorite" the American way. Is this because the award categories are thus spelt?
- Yeah, since the Blockbuster and People Choice Awards are American ceremonies. Should they be spelt the British way, or is it alright as is?
- If that's how they spell it, so be it! Cheers, Brianboulton (talk) 08:57, 3 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Yeah, since the Blockbuster and People Choice Awards are American ceremonies. Should they be spelt the British way, or is it alright as is?
Nothing more: well done. Brianboulton (talk) 21:50, 2 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you, Brianboulton for such a kind review. :) Krimuk|90 (talk) 01:31, 3 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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- Formatting is in order. Spot checks on five refs show all the relevant info is supported. - SchroCat (talk) 12:48, 3 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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