Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of songs recorded by Cheryl Cole/archive1
- The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The list was promoted by Hahc21 10:01, 12 March 2013 (UTC) [1].[reply]
List of songs recorded by Cheryl Cole (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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- Nominator(s): AARON• TALK 20:59, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I am nominating this for featured list because... I have promoted five other lists similar to this to FL for other singer's and believe that I have taken comments raised in previous nominations of mine and have applied them to this article. I think it is a nice, simple yet informative, concise list. AARON• TALK 20:59, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- "collaborations with others." Other what? Be specific, I take it you mean recording artists?
- I've been told to remove this from my 5 previous nominations of song lists for Rihanna, Adele etc. AARON• TALK
- As far as I'm concerned its currently too ambiguous, it could refer to anything. High quality prose should have no ambiguities, it needs to be explicit who the others are. NapHit (talk) 01:50, 8 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- How about "other singers", "other musicians", "other artists"... — Statυs (talk, contribs) 01:21, 9 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- honestly, don't see why it can't be recording artists, that is what they are. The three options above could relate to more professions in the arts world, this way the reader is clear we are dealing people who record music. NapHit (talk) 11:33, 9 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- How about "other singers", "other musicians", "other artists"... — Statυs (talk, contribs) 01:21, 9 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- As far as I'm concerned its currently too ambiguous, it could refer to anything. High quality prose should have no ambiguities, it needs to be explicit who the others are. NapHit (talk) 01:50, 8 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- I've been told to remove this from my 5 previous nominations of song lists for Rihanna, Adele etc. AARON• TALK
- "Cole's first solo recording outside of the girl band that she is a member of, Girls Aloud..." This is not professional prose, needs revising
- "on 16 October 2009 and was written..." Comma after 2009, replace and with which
- you start off the third para saying a year later, but this is not correct. The last date you referred was the same year as the one in this sentence. I would remove the phrase altogether
- I'm a bit concerned that the prose just reads like list of who wrote what at the moment. There is not a lot of flow between sentences. I would suggest getting an experienced editor to give it a copyedit
- I'm just following how the the 5 FLs are written which have been promoted. AARON• TALK
- That may be so, but its not an excuse to pass up the issue just because its modelled after other lists. You need to improve the flow between sentences, as I state above it just reads like a list of facts currently. Needs a copyedit to polish it.NapHit (talk) 01:50, 8 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- I've made a change to the bit about Call My Name by mentioning the genre, is that the sort thing you would like me to apply to make it flow? AARON• TALK 18:43, 8 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- By flow, I mean how one sentence runs into another. Although adding that info is helpful it doesn't address the issue. You need to ensure the sentences flow into each other and don't read like this: Person A wrote this song. Person B wrote this song, which is how it reads to me at the moment. NapHit (talk) 12:03, 9 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- I have to echo here. I have read the lead and although it is properly sourced, I am not completely comfortable at how it is written. I understand that this does not apply only to your list, but to all lists of this type. I'd prefer a lead focused on recurrent songwriters and genres, evolution of music styles through her studio albums, meaning and performance of most successful or widely known songs, and so on, but all meshed together to have an engaging prose. — ΛΧΣ21 18:00, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- By flow, I mean how one sentence runs into another. Although adding that info is helpful it doesn't address the issue. You need to ensure the sentences flow into each other and don't read like this: Person A wrote this song. Person B wrote this song, which is how it reads to me at the moment. NapHit (talk) 12:03, 9 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- I've made a change to the bit about Call My Name by mentioning the genre, is that the sort thing you would like me to apply to make it flow? AARON• TALK 18:43, 8 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- That may be so, but its not an excuse to pass up the issue just because its modelled after other lists. You need to improve the flow between sentences, as I state above it just reads like a list of facts currently. Needs a copyedit to polish it.NapHit (talk) 01:50, 8 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm just following how the the 5 FLs are written which have been promoted. AARON• TALK
- The table shouldn't change when it is initially sorted. 3 worlds needs to be moved to the top or forced to sort to to the bottom
- Contents box is missing the letter A, J and Y when there are songs that start with those letters
- hyphens in references should be en dashes
- Those edits have resulted in
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displaying instead of the actual dash. Use the small dash above the edit summary box instead. Also I still see hyphens in refs 6 and 7. NapHit (talk) 01:55, 8 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Those edits have resulted in
NapHit (talk) 12:22, 7 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Addressed all. AARON• TALK 12:32, 7 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
In its current state I'm going to have to oppose this nomination. The prose does not meet featured standards, an example being: "Cole is also member of Girls Aloud". The flow between sentences is almost non-existent an needs working on before it meets the criteria. NapHit (talk) 01:58, 11 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from — Statυs (talk, contribs) 04:51, 10 February 2013 (UTC)[reply] |
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Comments from Status:
— Statυs (talk, contribs) 22:33, 12 January 2013 (UTC)[reply] |
- Support. Great work! — Statυs (talk, contribs) 18:16, 10 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks. — AARON • TALK 23:49, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 14:24, 21 January 2013 (UTC)[reply] |
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Comments
Once these issues and the above comments about the lead are resolved, I'll be happy to support. Nice work! Incidentally, I've got my own FLC: HMV's Poll of Polls. If you have the time, I welcome any comments on it. Thanks very much! A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 16:48, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Didn't I and Boys. — Statυs (talk, contribs) 04:51, 10 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Per WP:SEEALSO, links that already appear in the article or any nav boxes needn't be also included in the See Also section. A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs)
- I couldn't find anything about the B-sides, then ended up reading a massive interview about her album haha. OKay. — AARON • TALK 23:46, 9 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Nice, but Cheryl Cole discography is listed in the navbox. A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 00:50, 10 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Where? — AARON • TALK
- Towards the top, underneath where it says "Cheryl Cole", to the left of where it says "Songs". A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 22:06, 13 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Got no idea where you are talking about, as her discography is not linked anywhere. Besides, a See also section no longer exists. — AARON • TALK 22:27, 13 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- You're right that it's essentially a moot point at the moment given that the SA section has gone, but, for future reference, I was referring to the link here. A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 00:00, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Got no idea where you are talking about, as her discography is not linked anywhere. Besides, a See also section no longer exists. — AARON • TALK 22:27, 13 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Towards the top, underneath where it says "Cheryl Cole", to the left of where it says "Songs". A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 22:06, 13 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Where? — AARON • TALK
- Nice, but Cheryl Cole discography is listed in the navbox. A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 00:50, 10 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- I couldn't find anything about the B-sides, then ended up reading a massive interview about her album haha. OKay. — AARON • TALK 23:46, 9 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- After I made some tiny fixes, I am confident to support this list of songs. — Tomíca(T2ME) 10:12, 9 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks. — AARON • TALK 10:24, 9 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Support — Very well formatted and cited. Good job. — DivaKnockouts (talk) 23:13, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks. — AARON • TALK 23:49, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 15:54, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply] |
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The Rambling Man (talk) 18:43, 16 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Support — The list looks good (citations, formatting). Well done! — Underneath-it-All (talk) 22:14, 1 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks. — AARON • TALK 12:15, 3 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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