Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of songs recorded by Jimi Hendrix/archive2
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After a previous failed nomination, User:Ojorojo and I have resolved the differences we had from that nomination and have collaborated extensively over the past few months into what we feel is FL worthy. Hendrix is known as one of the greatest guitarists of all time, and we made sure to make that known. We also decided to split the table into songs released during his lifetime and songs released posthumously, as we feel his most well-known songs were pre-1970, as well as most of his posthumous catalogue not being majorly well-known. As always, we'll take any comments or concerns anyone might have. Happy editing! – zmbro (talk) 23:16, 30 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments
- "However, Hendrix supplied his own interpretations, " => "Hendrix supplied his own interpretations, however"
- "as well as more the contemporary rock" - think a couple of these words are in the wrong order
- "Songs, such as "Freedom"" - don't need that comma
- "nonetheless has become part of his recording legacy" => "nonetheless it has become part of his recording legacy"
- "A majority of Hendrix's song catalogue" => "The majority of Hendrix's song catalogue"
- I would put the notes about alternate titles (Instrumental Solo, etc) against both listings, that way whichever one comes first will always have the note and readers don't have to scroll down to the other
- When sorting by title, "...And the Gods Made Love" comes at the end because of the dots - this should sort under A.
- "The Stars That Play with Laughing Sam's Dice" also sorts at the end when sorting by title but I have no idea why
- Stone Free is missing its opening "
- Refs against the last sentence of the Songs released posthumously section are in the wrong order numerically
- Might be worth clarifying that this section contains (I presume) only songs from the Douglas and Experience Hendrix releases and not the nine million other albums of dubious provenance released since his death. Or if it does include tracks from other releases, clarify which.
- Clarified: all are official, but kept it simple. There are others including by Kramer and Mitchell, Michael Jeffery, John Jansen, and Eric Blackstead, but thought this was too much detail. If it helps, I'll change it. —Ojorojo (talk) 19:30, 15 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Same comments as above about multiple title/see also entries
- When sorting the second table by title, "The Little Drummer Boy" / "Silent Night", "The Queen" and "The Sunshine of Your Love" all appear at the end, again not sure why.
- Note Z - "Up from the Skies" was as a single in the US - missing word there
- Note AQ - "Hey Baby" is sometimes titled "New Rising Sun", although that is also the title of different earlier demo => "a different...."
- Note BE - "Straight Ahead" was titled "Pass It On (Straight Ahead)" on Live at Berkeley - in that case should there not be a listing for "Pass It On (Straight Ahead)" as per other alternate titles?
- Think that's it from me...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:04, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- ChrisTheDude Everything should be taken care of. Sorry it took a while, been pretty busy irl lately. – zmbro (talk) 22:38, 15 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:49, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support Comments from Aoba47
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- Would it be helpful to link "demo" in this sentence, "He also left behind a large number of partially completed songs, demos, and jams in a variety of styles, which continue to be issued.", to the demo (music) article?
- Added link. —Ojorojo (talk) 14:26, 23 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Is there a citation for this sentence: "The majority of Hendrix's song catalogue is now made up of recordings released posthumously." I am just wondering because all of the other sentences in the lead except for this one has a citation.
- There's no citation I could find, but thought that it could be reasonably drawn from the relative lengths of the main vs posthumous tables (or one could count them). It was intended as a lead-in to the tables and doesn't add much; since it is conspicuous by the lack of a citation, I removed it. —Ojorojo (talk) 14:26, 23 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Understandable. I agree with your comment. The only reason I pointed it out was because it was the only sentence in the lead without a citation. Aoba47 (talk) 23:30, 23 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- There's no citation I could find, but thought that it could be reasonably drawn from the relative lengths of the main vs posthumous tables (or one could count them). It was intended as a lead-in to the tables and doesn't add much; since it is conspicuous by the lack of a citation, I removed it. —Ojorojo (talk) 14:26, 23 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Overall, wonderful work with the list. I have never listened to Hendrix's music, but this list was an interesting read. I only have two very minor comments, and once those are addressed, I will be more than happy to support this for promotion. Aoba47 (talk) 01:22, 23 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you for addressing everything. I support this for promotion. Aoba47 (talk) 23:30, 23 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Famous Hobo
edit- I feel like the Jimi Hendrix Experience should be mentioned more in the lede. It may have just be a vehicle for Hendrix, but regardless, they are still considered one of the most important bands of the 60s, if not all time. The fact that the Experience are briefly mentioned in a footnote doesn't feel right. I would mention how a lot of Hendrix' material was recorded with the Experience in the first paragraph. Outside of "Machine Gun", every song mentioned in the first paragraph was recorded when Hendrix was with the Experience.
- Actually, "All Along the Watchtower" and "Voodoo Chile", were recorded with additional musicians (without Redding), so technically they are not songs recorded by the Experience (a significant number of songs on Axis and Electric Ladyland do not include Redding). Additionally, "The Star-Spangled Banner", "Johnny B. Goode", "Blue Suede Shoes", "Freedom", and "Hey Baby (New Rising Sun)" were recorded after Redding left the group and were released under "Jimi Hendrix" rather than JHE (this applies to most of the posthumous releases). Rather than include all the various backing musicians, the focus of the lead is on songs. JHE and their albums are noted in the first sentence of the "Main songs" section. Zmbro made a similar point; maybe they can add something. —Ojorojo (talk) 14:06, 24 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Yeah I had originally said the same thing when we were building it up to FLC but Ojorojo brought up the same point, that he recorded with many more individuals than just Mitchell and Redding (and Miles and Cox on Band of Gypsys), so to me it's not a big deal to not mention the Experience. – zmbro (talk) 23:52, 25 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Something I noticed is that there are a couple of songs Hendrix recorded before he became famous which aren't listed here. For example "Testify" by the Isley Brothers features Hendrix on guitar. I'm not sure if this song should be included, just something to point out.
- There's a lot of material that Hendrix recorded as a sideman. The focus here is on songs he recorded as the principle artist. To include all the recordings made with and released by other artists would change the scope and lengthen an already long list. Perhaps a separate "List of songs recorded by Jimi Hendrix as a sideman" could be created to handle these. —Ojorojo (talk) 14:06, 24 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- I'll be completely honest, I'm just gonna assume that the actual list itself has all of the notable songs, and that there aren't any mistakes with the years or writers. Famous Hobo (talk) 02:55, 24 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- After some more checking, I found a 40-second solo private recording Hendrix made in a hotel room in 1968, which was included on the 50th anniversary deluxe edition of Electric Ladyland released last November. In his hand written lyrics, he titled it "Our Lovely Home", but it was released with the title "Snowballs at My Window". I'll add it to the list. I'm confident that all the notable songs ("subject of multiple, non-trivial published works whose sources are independent of the artist and label") are included and are suitably referenced. —Ojorojo (talk) 13:38, 26 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Famous Hobo Status update on this? – zmbro (talk) 19:57, 20 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support — I've read through this article and I think it's a really good one. I did some ref spot checking and it seems alright. Great list. — Lirim | Talk 20:46, 26 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you! – zmbro (talk) 22:09, 26 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Source review passed; promoting. --PresN 17:19, 28 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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