Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of tallest buildings in Charlotte, North Carolina/archive1
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List of tallest buildings in Charlotte, North Carolina (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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- Nominator(s): Sandvich18 (talk) 09:29, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I have taken care of the issues mentioned in this discussion and I believe this list is ready to regain its former featured status. I updated the lead, introduced a clickable skyline image, created new tables with images and coordinates, removed unsourced entries and added properly formatted references where needed. If it's necessary, I can also add alttext for images. This is my first nomination on Wikipedia and I hope to update all the "List of tallest buildings in ..." articles and standardize their structure. Sandvich18 (talk) 09:29, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - Just a bit of minor wording, featured lists don't start, or contain "This lists..." or "this is a list of..." or anything self-referential like that. It's somewhat tautological. A better way to start would be something like "There are x buildings over x height as of x year".
- Also errors in the very first sentence. "67 completed high-rises, 6 of which stand taller than 492 feet (150 m), and 46 are over 60m". But 46+6 does not equal 67....
- 33rd-tallest building in the United States needs a citaiton. So does "There are currently seven buildings under construction".
- "4th in the Southeast " I think you should reference that you mean united states. Mattximus (talk) 00:34, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you for your help! I wanted to make it clear that the first list is a ranking while the others are just lists, but I guess that's redundant; fixed. There's no error - 6 high-rises are 150m+, 40 (46-6) are 60-150m, and 21 (67-46) are under 60m (and are not listed here). I added references for the "33rd-tallest" and "seven buildings under construction" claims, and clarified that I mean the Southeastern United States. Sandvich18 (talk) 08:37, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- No prob,
- however that number in the lead should really match the number in the list, otherwise it's quite confusing.
- Also "An equal sign (=) following a rank indicates the same height between two or more buildings; they are listed in order of floor count, then alphabetically. The "Year" column indicates the year in which a building was completed." should be placed in a note, linking to notes section (since it's just instructions).
- as should " Any buildings that have been topped out but are not completed are also included."
- The paragraph at the beginning of each section needs a ref (even if it's just copied from the lead).
- Since 1909 needs an explanation (first building over x feet (x meters) tall?)
- Why does the 8th tallest have a note saying 9th tallest? Lots of little details like this need cleaning up. Mattximus (talk) 00:10, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Details still need cleaning up. I checked the first link of the first note and it said Bank of America is the 234 Tallest in the World, but the article says 230.... Oppose for now until little issues are fixed.
- I'm really not sure about the first sentence, I don't think it's confusing at all... I would like to hear a second opinion. I moved the instructions to notes, added references to the sections (except the timeline, which is self-evident), and clarified the year 1909. Indeed, the 8th-tallest building in Charlotte has a note saying it is the 9th-tallest building in North Carolina, I don't think there's anything wrong with that. Sandvich18 (talk) 08:25, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- I can try to reword my concern. You have a list of 47 buildings, but your opening sentence in the lead says "there are 67 completed high-rises". Since the lead summarizes the list, the numbers should match. I'm not sure anyone would disagree with this.
- Also you still have lots of little details to iron out before reaching featured list status. For example, the first link I clicked on was to check if the tallest was 228th-tallest building in the world, but the link said 230th tallest. Just for example. Mattximus (talk) 01:00, 23 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Alright, I removed that part of the lead. The reason why the link says 230th tallest is because two buildings taller than the Bank of America Corporate Center have apparently been completed since I added that information (for example the Guangxi Finance Plaza as slightly evidenced here). I will try to keep everything up to date, but I hope some delays are allowed. Sandvich18 (talk) 08:49, 23 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Sure no problem, it is looking better already. I clicked on all three refs in the first box to find a source for "tallest in North Carolina" but it wasn't there or I couldn't find it. Mattximus (talk) 15:13, 23 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Alright, I removed that part of the lead. The reason why the link says 230th tallest is because two buildings taller than the Bank of America Corporate Center have apparently been completed since I added that information (for example the Guangxi Finance Plaza as slightly evidenced here). I will try to keep everything up to date, but I hope some delays are allowed. Sandvich18 (talk) 08:49, 23 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm, I'm actually not sure about that link since it already appears as a specific reference. Should I use it as a source in each row of the table (when it's appropriate) or would that clutter up the boxes too much? Sandvich18 (talk) 22:09, 23 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oh well, I don't think it's actually that big of a problem. It may as well be used both as a specific and as a general source. Sandvich18 (talk) 15:39, 25 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm maybe one of the few people who remembers the proposed Four First Union from 1999, which would have been the 5th tallest building in the country. Seeing as how the featured Chicago list includes canceled proposals, maybe that could be included here? [2] has some info. --Golbez (talk) 19:33, 1 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comments by Dudley
- A note on the definition of high-rise and skyscraper would be helpful.
- "230th-tallest building in the world" I am dubious about this. You link it to an article about tallest buildings according to a different definition, and it is already out of date as the source now says 234th. I suggest deleting (and 454th below).
- Looks fine. Just a couple of minor queries. Dudley Miles (talk) 07:25, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Freikorp
- I'd remove the piping of National Register of Historic Places to "Registered Historic Place" and just link to the full article title.
- "the construction of 101 Independence Center" - should this read "the construction of the 101 Independance Center"?
- As per MOS:REALTIME, don't use terms like "currently" on Wikipedia. Reword "There are currently seven buildings" to specify as of when your source states this was happening. I.e "As of April 2017, there were seven..."
That's all from me. Looks pretty good overall. Freikorp (talk) 00:52, 13 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Sandvich18: You haven't responded to any of the reviews in the last month or so; if you aren't able to get to them soon I'm going to have to close this nomination. --PresN 04:07, 20 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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