Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/NBA first overall draft pick
- The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The list was promoted by User:The Rambling Man 20:27, 2 July 2008 [1].
I took my time and improve the list. Since I believe it meets all the featured list criteria, I hope this list will get featured.—Chris! ct 00:29, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Some comments (I'll add to this as I look through the article):
- In the second paragraph, is there some way of clarifying that the dates in parentheses are the years when the players were drafted, and not the years those players won the MVP awards? Zagalejo^^^ 03:38, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It seems like the refs formatting is inconsistent. Zagalejo^^^ 04:25, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I fixed that. All refs are now using the cite web template.—Chris! ct 19:59, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Support I'm satisfied with it. Zagalejo^^^ 02:55, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment
The bold text if a link is going to be used in it, per WP:BOLDTITLE.Gary King (talk) 04:44, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I readd a link for the NBA in the fourth paragraph. It is pretty far down though. Perhaps it is a good idea to add a new sentence or reword the first sentence to include a link for the NBA.—Chris! ct 20:10, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Note Just wanted to inform all of you that I might be out for the next few days and might not be able to attend to any issues regarding this FLC during that time. Hopefully, editors who are attached to this FLC or the NBA Wikiproject will be able to fix any problems raised by other editors when I am away. I will return to this FLC as soon as I can. Thanks in advance.—Chris! ct 20:05, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment I really don't like that dark yellow colour. Could you use a lighter colour like the scheme used here? As well, it would be great if you could highlight which players won the Rookie of the Year award. Simply have 3 colours, 1 for all stars, 1 for RotYs and 1 for all stars and RotYs. I've got to admit, I really don't like the column layout of the table. It should go Year | Name | Nationality | Former club |NBA team |Everything else similar to the NHL #1 pick page. -- Scorpion0422 19:46, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- First, I changed the color. Then I add several new colors for other awards. I will add RotYs award later when I have time. As for the column layout, I didn't do anything on that because I think the current arrangement is better. For draft info, team name is very important and therefore shouldn't place on the far right.—Chris! ct 01:23, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments from The Rambling Man (talk · contribs)
- Any reason why the school col is far too wide? In fact, quite a few columns are too wide.
- I tweaked the column. —Chris! ct 01:23, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Add the abbreviations PPG etc to the key instead of as footnotes. It makes the table easier to understand without having to flick to footnotes.
- Fixed —Chris! ct 01:23, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- RPG, PPG, APG cols don't sort correctly.
- Fixed —Chris! ct 01:23, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- If you want to include a blank row for 2008 (and personally I wouldn't) then you should at least footnote it with why it's blank.
- Fixed —Chris! ct 01:23, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- "The first three players listed below..." they'll only be the first three if you haven't resorted the table.
- Fixed by another editor —Chris! ct 01:29, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- You link NBA in the first sentence and then link National Basketball Association in the last. I'd use the full version in the first sentence with a (NBA) after it and then not link the second instance at all.
- Fixed by another editor —Chris! ct 01:23, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
date
field in the {{cite web}} template should be of the YYYY-MM-DD format so it gets converted correctly and consistently.
- Fixed —Chris! ct 01:23, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Is there a Basketball lists category to which this could be added?
- Fixed —Chris! ct 01:23, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The Rambling Man (talk) 17:31, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
- Move the footnote links next to players names and nationality to the notes column
- Well, that won't be a good idea since the footnote links are used to explain the draft picks and the nationality of that player.—Chris! ct 01:33, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Explain the abbreviations for PPG, RPG and APG in the key section.
- Fixed —Chris! ct 01:23, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 06:15, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
- Please read MOS on spelling out numbers. "6-time winner", etc.
- Fixed —Chris! ct 01:23, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Why is a dictionary word such as "media" linked? See MOS. Generally, avoid linking the names of anglophone countries (I see at least two), and other countries that are sure to be well-known to almost all readers. Your lead is getting very blue.
- Fixed. I also remove several repeated links. —Chris! ct 01:29, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Why "Nat." in the column heading, rather than "Country"? Isn't the space enough for that full word? If not, borrow waste from other columns.
- Fixed. I use "nationality" because that is the word used by the creator. Since "country" and "nationality" are really interchangeable in everyday usage, I don't see the point of changing it around. —Chris! ct 01:29, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Please use sentence case for your column headings, not title case. "College/High school/Former club" is like alphabet soup.
- Fixed —Chris! ct 01:29, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Criterion 6: Can you find a less vomity colour than that bright yellow? I need sunscreen.
- Fixed —Chris! ct 01:29, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Otherwise good. TONY (talk) 09:30, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Coments college, Position, and Selected by columns should not be overly-wikilinked. Link them only the first time they appear.--Gman124 talk 23:49, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Fixed. —Chris! ct 19:04, 28 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- One more color shouldn't be the only indicator for the All-Star. --Gman124 talk 02:42, 28 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't what else I could use to indicate the All-Star. Perhaps an asterisk will work.—Chris! ct 19:04, 28 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I try to add another color or symbol, but that just makes the list more confusing. I think it would be best to stick to the current arrangement.—Chris! ct 19:13, 28 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I think Asterisk would work. --Gman124 talk 19:39, 28 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I try to add another color or symbol, but that just makes the list more confusing. I think it would be best to stick to the current arrangement.—Chris! ct 19:13, 28 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't what else I could use to indicate the All-Star. Perhaps an asterisk will work.—Chris! ct 19:04, 28 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments
- I think the list should be named List of first overall NBA draft picks.
- I will rename it.—Chris! ct 01:57, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The second paragraph bothers me because the years in the bracets could mean draft year or year of the MVP winning.
- Yeah, I mentioned that above. The years refer to the years they were drafted. I think we could just remove them from the lead, because the list is already there to provide that information. Zagalejo^^^ 23:55, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The second paragraph bothers me because the years in the bracets could mean draft year or year of the MVP winning.
- I will remove the years now if it causes confusion.—Chris! ct 01:49, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- In the sentence "Duncan is an American citizen, but is considered an "international" player by the NBA because he is originally from the U.S. Virgin Islands, and not one of the fifty states.", the District of Columbia is also not considered as a state but is also not considered as international so you should some how fix up that sentence.
- Good catch. I was responsible for that phrasing. I've added a mention of Washington, DC. Zagalejo^^^ 23:55, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- In the sentence "The Basketball Association of America became the National Basketball Association after absorbing teams from the National Basketball League in fall 1949.", the last words should be in the fall of 1949.
- I wrote that one, too. I've added the missing words. (I don't think there's anything wrong with "fall 1949", but "the fall of..." seems to be the more common expression, so I'll just go with that.) Zagalejo^^^ 23:55, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I think the Lebron James picture is too big. you should make it to around 150-175px.
- In the sentence "Duncan is an American citizen, but is considered an "international" player by the NBA because he is originally from the U.S. Virgin Islands, and not one of the fifty states.", the District of Columbia is also not considered as a state but is also not considered as international so you should some how fix up that sentence.
- I resized it to 150px.—Chris! ct 01:57, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- In the key, every first word should be capitalized. So "points per game" should be "Points per game".
- Since the list is sortable, I think you should link all of the team and clubs.
- Not sure what you mean, all of them are linked.—Chris! ct 01:57, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Not all the colleges were linked. I've taken care of that, though. Zagalejo^^^ 02:54, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Not sure what you mean, all of them are linked.—Chris! ct 01:57, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- If everything I requested is finished, I'll support.
Annoyomous24 (talk) 23:18, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Annoyomous24 (talk) 1:06, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
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