Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Battle of Spottsylvania

Battle of Spotsylvania

Original - The Battle of Spotsylvania was the second major battle of Ulysses S. Grant's Overland Campaign in the American Civil War. This image of the Bloody Angle is one of the iconic images of the Civil War, having been used on book covers, etc. Sorry, I'm not feeling so hot. I'll poke at this description in the morning.

Reason: One of the iconic images of the American Civil War. I'd love it if we could get it even bigger, but it's still of a reasonable size.
Articles this image appears in: Battle of Spotsylvania and others
Creator: Thure de Thulstrup

Support as nominator --Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 01:54, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose colours are off, there is no reason why we should not have the full sized tiff file as well. GerardM (talk) 04:45, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I converted the Tiff to PNG, which is smaller but still lossless. Some of us do not have lightning-fast connections. Mine has a tendency to fail during larger uploads, forcing me to try to repupload several times. Converting TIFF to PNG - all the information! half the file size! - is a sane option, and insisting that TIFF be used, which provides no advantage, merely file-size bloat and an inability to see the image - PNG will display at this resolution - is not sensible. Sure, with these smaller files it's not so much a problem as it is with bigger ones, but seriously... Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 08:27, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Converting to png breaks the provenance of the picture. You are using the jpg anyway for the actual viewing of the picture and consequently there is no benefit. As to tiff not showing, I understand that the German Verein is paying for a developer to fix this. GerardM (talk) 05:48, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - I'm sorry, Gerard, but I see no good reason to use TIFF, particularly when A. PNG is half the filesize; B. I'm having trouble with uploads timing out, which becomes worse with increasing file size; C. support for them is still a pipedream for the foreseeable future; and D even if we get them so that thumbnails can be used on Wikipedia, no modern browsers can show TIFF, so viewing the non-thumbnailed versions requires downloading the file and opening it with a program dedicated to the task. PNGs can be opened by all modern browsers. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 08:10, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    - Provenance trumps any of your arguments as it is not the technical merits that matter really. Thanks, GerardM (talk) 07:46, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      - That's like saying that if I don't copy-paste the LoC description provenance is lost. It's an entirely meaningless claim. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 10:55, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Support Could probably stand a levels adjustment. Whether the image was uploaded in your favorite format really has nothing to do with the FPC criteria. — Jake Wartenberg 02:43, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Always find these smaller ones without colour boxes a bit fiendish to levels adjust. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 10:52, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yea. :( — Jake Wartenberg 18:33, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Very high encyclopedic value. I find the colors fine, personally. Cool3 (talk) 02:18, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No consensus => Not promoted ~ ωαdεstεr16_«talk^stalk» 04:54, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]