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Cologne Panorama

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Original - Panoramic view of the old town of Cologne (North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany) taken from Deutz, on the other side of the river Rhine at dusk (09:58pm). You can see (from left to right) the former Lufthansa corporate headquarters, the Deutzer bridge, Great St. Martin Church, Cologne Cathedral, Museum Ludwig, the Cologne telecommunications tower Colonius, the Hohenzollern bridge and the blue lights and reflections of the Cologne Musical Dome.Five images with 3 exposures each (15 images in total) were merged together. The resulting 32bit HDRI was converted to an 8bit LDRI. Images were taken with a Canon EOS 1000D (EOS Digital Rebel XS or EOS Kiss F) and 18-55mm lens at f/5.6.
Reason
Already a featured image on Commons, excellent composition.
Articles in which this image appears
Cologne, Cologne Cathedral, Great St. Martin Church, Hohenzollernbrücke, Portal:North Rhine-Westphalia
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Panorama
Creator
Ahgee
The image has now been included in three additional articles where it is relevant.  Fallschirmjäger  ✉  23:54, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Dubious value in most of those articles, in fact could be a negative, especially in Cologne Cathedral & Great St. Martin Church. Please avoid pleas to flood articles with these images - this has been discussed somewhat extensively recently, see here for example. Panoramas in particular should be used somewhat sparingly. --jjron (talk) 15:35, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support This adds value to WP.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:52, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Theres some pretty obvious stitching errors in the water and distracting reflections (looks like this was shot through a window, although it looks like from a sidewalk, not sure what the reflections are in the water, purple below the bridge). — raeky (talk | edits) 03:38, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • I wouldn’t call it “stitching errors” but rather “stitching artifacts”. It’s pretty much impossible to shoot a multi-shot panorama with water in the scene without stitching artifacts in the water. The purple below the bridge seems to be from a purple-lighted building behind the bridge. That’s the part I think makes this picture way-cool. Those purple lights, which peek through the bridgework, also appear to be responsible for a few instances of lens flair in front of the water. Greg L (talk) 04:22, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • I'm sure there is some tweeks one can do to lessen the fairly harsh lines in the water from the individual shots. I'm aware of the technical difficulties of that, since water is dynamic and moving, but I'm sure it can be fixed. If those are lens flairs then maybe it's not a big deal... I just felt that unless the visible lines in the water from the stitching are corrected I think it lacks FP quality. I could support it if those are fixed somehow, or made less obvious.— raeky (talk | edits) 04:32, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The colors merit some discussion. They look mostly ok to me, but the Cologne Cathedral looks almost like a 3D rendering, possibly because of still too much DR and a lack of shadows. On a minor note, I see two white dots, one to the left of both the church and the cathedral, that could be cloned out. Don't see other stars in the image so I'm not sure what they are. Fletcher (talk) 18:41, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The two white dots have been removed, they definately weren't stars and weren't present in the earlier version of the image.  Fallschirmjäger  ✉  23:08, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I'll change my vote then to weak support, as per my technical issues with this picture... Thank you... Gazhiley (talk) 12:11, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
BTW have also struck off the Portal link as per my above comments, the picture has already been removed from this article previously... Gazhiley (talk) 12:13, 18 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment (I am not a voter, as I am not looking at the technical aspects of the photo). I am here to comment upon and disagree with the removal of the photograph from the Cologne Cathedral article. Previously the article had a photo of the cathedral from across the river. As a major contributor to the article, I removed that photo when the panorama went in. The option was to remove the panorama as two such was a superfluity. The reason why I preferred the panorama was that the article specifically discusses the role of the cathedral and its two enormous spires as a landscape element. The cathedral is not a stand-alone item. It sits there, with the bridge, the tower, the river and the accompanying buildings. It was left standing, by the allies, probably because of its landmark value. And more recently, this same landmark value has been protected by World Heritage status and a ruling that bans any high-rise building near it. The panoramic view tells the reason why this is the case, better than any words can express. I want it back in the article.
And, Ghaziley, I think you are out of order, making your support "Conditional" upon the photograph being removed from such and such an article. It is either a good photograph or it is not. The writers of the specific articles either see a use for it or they don't. Amandajm (talk) 09:00, 19 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Re the above comment directed at Gaziley there has been extensive discussion here recently with one user favouring spreading images very widely, which is not necessarily in line with FPC criteria or general consensus. His comments are based around this. Also you may not appreciate that one of the key criteria at FPC is 'encyclopaedic value', i.e., how useful it is to WP, not just 'whether it's a good photo or not'. And yes the writers of articles should decide whether it's useful, but that's what the discussions have been based on, that these images are being scattered about articles, but not by the regular article writers, and the usage is often questionable. --jjron (talk) 13:41, 19 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Promoted File:Cologne - Panoramic Image of the old town at dusk.jpg --Jujutacular T · C 15:52, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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