Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/DNA animation

DNA fragment animation

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 31 Mar 2011 at 04:18:10 (UTC)

Original - Rotating DNA fragment

Alternative. This version has a transparent background and is already a featured picture on the Spanish language Wikipedia

Reason: very informative for those who don't know it already, good quality for an animation
Articles in which this image appears: DNA, Biopolymer
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Sciences/Biology
Creator: Magadan

Support as nominator --Nergaal (talk) 04:18, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment There is also this alternative image which is already a featured picture on the Spanish language Wikipedia, has a transparent background and is a higher resolution. - Zephyris _Talk 12:17, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I prefer the alt since it is higher res. Nergaal (talk) 17:18, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Strong oppose Both are really low quality, compare them to this beautiful image [1], for example. I'm a big fan of DNA and I'd be disappointed to see such a low quality (also cliched) image featured just because it looks scientific. Also, how does it spinning help, one sees how it's 3D pretty clearly in a 2D picture already. And the spinning doesn't even spin in a way that shows the magic of DNA - how the base pairs fit together like lego. The bases are always shown from the side - like looking at a piece of paper from its side. </rant> Aaadddaaammm (talk) 21:51, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well in that case what would your perfect animation look like? I have Qutemol, pymol and a pdb file of bDNA... I just need suggestions on what would make the best possible animation! - Zephyris _Talk 00:25, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I would imagine higher resolution and no transparent background (due to GIF anti-aliasing issues). Kaldari (talk) 17:54, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yea, definitely higher resolution, and maybe try rotating in other ways, not just around the y axis, so we can see some of the details which are on the x-z plane. Aaadddaaammm (talk) 19:42, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've had a bit of a go making this elusive "best possible animation". I feel what we need to do is simplify the backbone, and maybe show the bases as 2D planes. I don't have any time to figure out how to do this at the moment - maybe in the next few days, but no promises, there must be an expert lurking here somewhere... Aaadddaaammm (talk) 20:18, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm kind of with Adam here: not really seeing what animation adds. My favorite of your images in the DNA article, Zephyris, is this one. I think an image of undamaged DNA with that level of detail would add to the article. Chick Bowen 03:33, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Like this one? File:A-DNA, B-DNA and Z-DNA.png - Zephyris _Talk 09:00, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I would support that if it had a caption that might explain to me what I'm looking at. I read the relevant section of DNA as well as A-DNA and I don't really get it. Chick Bowen 16:16, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

So I made this image... I think it's quite good, but we should split any discussion of it off to the picture peer review. - Zephyris _Talk 22:59, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

New image The structure of the DNA double helix. The atoms in the structure are colour coded by element, the spiralling backbone of the two strands is shown in orange and the detailed structure of two base pairs is shown in the bottom right.

I find that very clear and helpful. Let's see if it sticks as the main image at DNA. If so, I'd suggest you start a new nomination in a week or so. Chick Bowen 03:02, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You're my new hero, Zephyris. Awesome image. Strong support, or should we start a new nom? Aaadddaaammm (talk) 20:34, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 07:18, 31 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]