Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Elakala Waterfalls

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 1 Jun 2010 at 04:20:04 (UTC)

 
Original - Elakala Waterfalls in the Blackwater Falls State Park, West Virginia, USA.
 
Alt - not a candidate here, potential candidate for Long exposure photography
Reason
Illustrates the subject in a compelling way, making the viewer want to know more.
Articles in which this image appears
Blackwater Falls State Park, Long exposure photography
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Places/Landscapes and/or Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Other
Creator
Forest Wander
      • Elekhh, no one is saying that picture isn’t great for use in the Blackwater Falls State Park article. It can stay there. It should stay there. Damn nice picture. The motion being advanced here is that for it to receive FP status, it should also be featured in an article in which it adds more encyclopedic value. As it is now in Long exposure photography, there, it speaks straight to the heart of that issue and illustrates it very very effectively. So if you A) keep it in both articles, and B) withdraw this nomination, and C) renominate it with a caption and link referencing the Long exposure photography article, it may well achieve FP status based on its aesthetic qualities and its EV to that particular article. Note that I voted “support” already. You can count on another “support” vote in the context of the photography article. Greg L (talk) 22:20, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        • Are you implying that both cannot be feautured and therefore it should be decided which one has higher EV? --Elekhh (talk) 23:27, 26 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
          • Not at all… hey, I’m on your side here. First, I didn’t understand there were two versions of this photo. Nor did I realize User:Redtigerxyz changed the image on Long exposure photography (∆ here) to the Alt version. Given that it was my idea in the first place to add your picture there, I got a bit bold and changed it to the original, more colorful version. I’ve got that one as my wallpaper at this very moment; well done.

            This is not complex. In a nutshell: If the present voting trend persists, it is simply a matter that neither of these pictures can win FP status so long as the caption and associated article remains Blackwater Falls State Park; insufficient EV seems to be the common theme to the “oppose” votes. Now, you can do whatever you please. But I suggest you withdraw the nomination and re-nominate it in association with Long exposure photography and with a caption similar to the one shown here. Greg L (talk) 00:31, 27 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

            • I see. Well, I wish to reaffirm my nomination of this version based on EV for Blackwater Falls State Park as detailed above. The candidacy of Alt based on EV in Long exposure photography shall be a separate candidate at a later stage. I would like to ask everybody to focus on this nomination for now. --Elekhh (talk) 00:54, 27 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment There is a good, running precedent for images using long exposure to capture waterfalls. This nomination should not be subjected to special treatment. I think it is also notable that we do not see waterfalls in freeze frames. We instead view them in motion, flowing. A long exposure is a valid way to capture that and does so accurately. Cowtowner (talk) 03:17, 27 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Good point. I agree. The artistic “flourish” of long exposure for waterfalls is pretty much the norm. However, you may be too late, Cowtowner, since I seldom see so many “oppose” votes reverse this late in the game. Let’s keep our fingers crossed. I think this is a very attractive picture that would cast Wikipedia in a very good light for 24 hours when it is on our main page. Greg L (talk) 05:56, 27 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • May I just point out that the reason my vote will stay as "Oppose" is highlighted by the example pictures you have included... Notice all 5 of the examples the main subject (which is arguably the waterfall even though the topic is BFSP) is central to the picture, however the nom it is squashed into the top left corner... To me this is bad composition, only highlighted by the alt picture found where the water is central to the picture - the waterfall in the background and the circles in the foreground... When I look at the nom my eyes are immediately diverted to the bright green almost glowing moss, whereas in all the below pictures the incredible effect of the water is my main focus... So I will continue to Oppose this nom, but would happily support the alt if that was nom'd... Gazhiley (talk) 10:26, 27 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        • I appreciate that rationale and I mentioned the composition was a concern in my support. That said, I'm not wholly sold on the alt. In that image I feel like the waterfall has been squashed into the top right corner. Considering these compositional shortcomings, I've changed my support to weak. Cowtowner (talk) 22:12, 27 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 09:47, 1 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]