Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Fetal spina bifida

Fetal spina bifida detected by ultrasound

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Original – An ultrasound visualisation of the spine of a foetus at 21 weeks of pregnancy. The foetus is affected by open spina bifida (spina bifida cystica). In the centre of this longitudinal scan a lumbar myelomeningocele appears as dome shaped structure attached to the lumbar region of the foetal spine. The foetus is facing downwards.

Reason: Clear and didactic ultrasound representation of a fetus affected by the desease
Articles in which this image appears: Spina bifida
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Sciences/Biology
Creator: the creator of the image, where possible using the format Wolfgang Moroder

Support as nominator --Moroderen (talk) 20:07, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I'm confused on a couple of levels here. Firstly the nominator self-identifies as the same individual as the creating account, whih was blocked as a sock of a disruptive sockmaster - however that sort of thing isn't something I could do, so it might be that it poses no problem on this gorund. Secondly I am intrigued as to how the creator/nominator has the copyright of the appropriate file. Is it a real scan (it won't play on my machine)? If so (or indeed not) could this be clarified? Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 20:17, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Answer Thank you for your comment. You are right, I did a mistake using my universal account name on WP (moroder), which has been banned on the English WP as a sockpuppet, I have nothing to do with. Therefore my correct account I use on the English WP is Moroderen. I'm not sure I understand you correctly in regard of the second point. The videoclip was generated on my ultrasound machine (GE E8) where I scanned the patient and made the diagnosis of spina bifida (see also the scan of the fetal head). I exported the clip as a avi file and converted in the theora.ogv format by "Miro video converter". Does this answer your question? Best regards --Moroderen (talk) 07:31, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

More or less, yes. But I'm still unclear, if you are an employee, over whether you actually own the copyright in this case. The work is presumably something you did as part of your job, which can be enough to make the copyright corporate. Has this ever been discussed before? Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 21:14, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am not an employee, I am self employed and own 100% of the ultrasound machine. I do not believe the patient has some copyright on the image, which does not bear her name, but she gave me a verbal consent for publication --Moroderen (talk) 21:29, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The copyright owner would depend on the jurisdiction this ultrasound was done. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 17:34, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose as the article this video is in is about spina bifida and not about ways of detecting spina bifida. So EV is small if any. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 17:34, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Question Does this mean that this is not a spina bifida? Or that fetal spina bifida does not count?--Moroderen (talk) 22:16, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I assume you were asking me, so I corrected the indentation. I can't see the spina bifida in the utrasound, but then again, I don't know what to look for. In no way do I think fetal cases do not count. Regardless, I am changing my vote, as I see a different way to approach this now. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 20:59, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Change my vote to Weak Support, as there is a section in the article about detecting the condition while in the womb, to which this file adds a lot of EV. I would support fully if the untrained eye (me) could easily spot spina bifida in the ultrasound. As it is, I can't really tell the difference from any other ultrasound. But maybe that is just me. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 20:59, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I can't speak for untrained eyes, but it's plainly visible in the thumbnail. The lighter parts in the centre is the body of the fetus, which is facing the bottom of the picture. The line of white spots is the spine, and the anomaly is the lump in the back circled in red. --101.109.210.60 (talk) 07:50, 30 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, so that is it! OK, well, I see it now. Image definitely needs a good caption wherever it is to explain where is what. --Wingtipvorte^X PTT ∅ 17:28, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

info I added some text on the capture and imagenotes to the still image shown with 'Other versions' --Moroderen (talk) 06:35, 2 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 22:33, 2 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]