Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Girls' Generation
Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 30 Jan 2012 at 04:14:36 (UTC)
- Reason
- EV across several high-visibility articles, great resolution, beautiful composition
- Articles in which this image appears
- South Korea, Girls' Generation, LG Corp, LG Cookie (KP500)
- FP category for this image
- Culture, entertainment, and lifestyle/Entertainment
- Creator
- LGEPR
- Support as nominator --—Eustress talk 04:14, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose, the ad is distracting, it would look like Wikipedia endorses it. I would support another photo below instead. Brandmeister t 11:22, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
- Comment: I'm inclined to agree with Brandmeister; an ad for a mobile phone is not an ideal illustration of a girl group. The alternative would surely be preferable. Can I ask why the phone one was chosen over the other? J Milburn (talk) 12:37, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
- Article use perhaps? --jjron (talk) 13:42, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
- PS. I like the alt but I really think the image page should be Englishfied and the band members pictured actually named (same goes for Original actually). --jjron (talk) 13:56, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
- Great comments, and I agree the alternate would be superior, although, since they are really two different pictures (different FP categories, that is), I should probably submit the alternate as a separate FPC. Before I do so, should anything be done regarding the file name? I don't see anything on Wikipedia:Image file names regarding non-English names; plus, the image originates from Commons. —Eustress talk 14:22, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
- I seem to remember something from somewhere about names that at least used the standard keyboard character set being preferred, whether or not that was in English I can't remember, but for uswiki it probably is - the third sentence in your linked page says "It is helpful to other contributors and for maintenance of the encyclopedia if images have descriptive or at least readable file names", which seems to somewhat address that point. I tweaked the file description in the Alt, but it needs more, and I gave up on trying to name the girls after getting a couple; someone who knows them would really have to do it. BTW, I don't really get your argument about the two different FP Categories - why is that so? --jjron (talk) 16:13, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
- The alternate pic seems to capture people rather than a culture (advertising phones created in their patria), so wouldn't a more appropriate FP cat for the alt pic be People/Entertainment? Also, these two pictures are utilized on different articles, so I still think a separate FPC would be appropriate. Please advise. —Eustress talk 16:41, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
- FYI, I've submitted a request on Commons for the alternate image to be renamed. I recommend we focus this FPC on the original and am removing the alternate from view to avoid confusion, but feel free to restore if that is inappropriate. —Eustress talk 18:05, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
- Oh, OK, I rather assumed the first one was mainly being used to illustrate the girls/band as well, I didn't quite get that you were nominating as a representation of the 'culture' instead. I guess an advertisement could be considered part of culture; we've got more historical advertising images such as this, and this featured I suppose, so yeah, I guess you could argue that way. Perhaps speaking against that is that both in your list of articles, and in terms of article prominence, this is more prominent in the article on the band than the LG articles. OK, it's your nom, so I'm happy for you to decide which way you want it to go. --jjron (talk) 01:37, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah, I must say that I also misunderstood here. I thought that this was being put forward as an ideal image of the girl band. (And I realise this one was nominated because of its article use, Jjron; I meant to ask why this one was chosen to go in the article!) J Milburn (talk) 11:04, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- This one has been around for over six months, the other one only got uploaded a few days ago. I guess that may explain it. --jjron (talk) 03:28, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah, I must say that I also misunderstood here. I thought that this was being put forward as an ideal image of the girl band. (And I realise this one was nominated because of its article use, Jjron; I meant to ask why this one was chosen to go in the article!) J Milburn (talk) 11:04, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Oh, OK, I rather assumed the first one was mainly being used to illustrate the girls/band as well, I didn't quite get that you were nominating as a representation of the 'culture' instead. I guess an advertisement could be considered part of culture; we've got more historical advertising images such as this, and this featured I suppose, so yeah, I guess you could argue that way. Perhaps speaking against that is that both in your list of articles, and in terms of article prominence, this is more prominent in the article on the band than the LG articles. OK, it's your nom, so I'm happy for you to decide which way you want it to go. --jjron (talk) 01:37, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- FYI, I've submitted a request on Commons for the alternate image to be renamed. I recommend we focus this FPC on the original and am removing the alternate from view to avoid confusion, but feel free to restore if that is inappropriate. —Eustress talk 18:05, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
- The alternate pic seems to capture people rather than a culture (advertising phones created in their patria), so wouldn't a more appropriate FP cat for the alt pic be People/Entertainment? Also, these two pictures are utilized on different articles, so I still think a separate FPC would be appropriate. Please advise. —Eustress talk 16:41, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
- I seem to remember something from somewhere about names that at least used the standard keyboard character set being preferred, whether or not that was in English I can't remember, but for uswiki it probably is - the third sentence in your linked page says "It is helpful to other contributors and for maintenance of the encyclopedia if images have descriptive or at least readable file names", which seems to somewhat address that point. I tweaked the file description in the Alt, but it needs more, and I gave up on trying to name the girls after getting a couple; someone who knows them would really have to do it. BTW, I don't really get your argument about the two different FP Categories - why is that so? --jjron (talk) 16:13, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose Zero EV on the first and latter two articles. Actually I expected to see a non-advertising picture of that group, like File:LG 시네마 3D TV 새 모델 ‘소녀시대’ 영입.jpg, but as it is not the case, I oppose promotion. --♫GoP♫TCN 09:56, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
Not Promoted --Makeemlighter (talk) 04:42, 30 January 2012 (UTC)