Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Horseshoes, Yuma

Horseshoes, Yuma

Original - Horseshoe pitching contest at the annual field day of the FSA farmworkers community, Yuma, Arizona (1942)

Not for voting - Unrestored original

Reason: The young boys' eyes captivated me. And also: encyclopedic picture of a game of horseshoes at a field day in Yuma, Arizona in 1942. And no, the horizon is not straight. I'm assuming that Russell Lee knew what he was doing when he shot this for the FSA. Restoration included dust and scratchs and dealing with a particularly nastily faded original.
Articles this image appears in: Horseshoes, Field day
Creator: Russell Lee, photographer. Restored by Michel Vuijlsteke

Support as nominator --Michel Vuijlsteke (talk) 00:33, 25 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Nice restoration, but not a whole lot of EV for horseshoes or field day (as it is easily reproducible). Also, no wow factor. Kaldari (talk) 02:10, 25 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Wasn't aware that the wow factor was a requirement, sorry. -- Michel Vuijlsteke (talk) 02:57, 25 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - It has to "illustrates the subject in a compelling way". Since nothing is historically unique about this photo (someone could easily recreate it today), why should we settle for a drab, grainy, black and white photo to illustrate the article? Kaldari (talk) 15:55, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    - It's an illustration of the game of horseshoes in the 1940s. I understand the game went through a number of changes, including the height of the thingamajig sticking out of the ground (can you tell I'm not an expert? :) -- Michel Vuijlsteke (talk) 22:49, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I like the image and it's historically significant, but at the moment its encyclopaedic use doesn't meet requirements. Its use in horseshoe is barely relevant (they're holding horseshoes, so what? How does this actually illustrate a horseshoe or its use? What are they doing with them?), and I can't immediately see its relevance to field day. Okay, I need to learn to read, scrap that - I just realised the difference between horseshoe and horseshoes. Now that is relevant - it shows the age of the game, and the culture and environment in which it was played. However I still think we can squeeze a bit more EV out of this as an example of Lee's work and the material that the FSA's depression photography program gathered around this time (with reference to Walker Evans, Dorothea Lange etc.) —Vanderdecken∴ ∫ξ φ 12:08, 25 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support. The EV for horseshoes is clear to me. (I'm American; this game is well known in the United States). Horizon doesn't bother me either: perhaps they were on an incline (the fenceposts on the left hand side and the posture of the two men are pretty close to vertical.) Spikebrennan (talk) 16:29, 25 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support -- not sure I like the tilted angle, and the photo looks a bit fuzzy, but it seems to meet our requirements for a featured picture. ♪Tempo di Valse ♪ 13:36, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose A good restoration effort, but I don't think the EV is strong enough. Fletcher (talk) 21:52, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support - Best image for subjects illustrated, but might be better as a valued picture. Ceranthor 13:41, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Limited EV since it only shows half the game. We really need to see what he's aiming at. Makeemlighter (talk) 05:53, 30 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- He's aiming at a small metal post, similar to the one at his feet. I don't see how you could really take a good photograph that includes the players and the target post-- either you're going to have depth of field issues, or a lot of uninteresting space in the middle. Spikebrennan (talk) 13:40, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No consensus. Not promoted ~ ωαdεstεr16_«talk^stalk» 06:05, 1 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]