Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Only The Navy Can stop This

Only the Navy Can Stop Giant Germans from Killing our Sea-Women and Sea-Children!

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Original - A 1917 WWI recruitment poster for the United States Navy by William Allen Rogers.

Reason: Okay, it's an allegory for the sinking of the Luisitania. But, joking aside, it's rather an interesting, artistic poster; good EV for both the artist and recruitment, and adds a bit of variety to WWI articles.
Articles in which this image appears: William Allen Rogers, United States Navy, World War I, U-boat Campaign (World War I)
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured_pictures/History/World_War_I
Creator: William Allen Rogers

Support as nominator --Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 15:21, 19 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support Given the poster’s age, it is in fine condition. Furthermore, the scan is very high quality. The subject matter (war propaganda) and the historical nature make it eye-catching. Greg L (talk) 17:23, 19 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: The article on the artist mentions nothing about his propaganda work, and we already have an FP in the article to illustrate his work. J Milburn (talk) 14:16, 20 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've clarified the caption at his article: this was one of his political cartoons before it was propoganda (it thanks his newspaper for giving the Navy permission for the Navy to reuse it). His work for the New York Herald as a political cartoonist is discussed.

Not for Voting, Provided here for comparison: Our other FP of this artist's work: Rather obscure context, hence probably not as good of illustration of the artist's article. Also, not as eye-catching.

I also think this does a better job at illustrating his article than the current FP, since the context is much more clear and well-known - WWI vs. Great White Fleet. (Not to bash that FP: It has reasonably high value in its other articles.) Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 16:16, 20 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support for the usage in William Allen Rogers. Thanks for the clarification above. J Milburn (talk) 18:33, 20 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I think this qualifies for the exclusion list. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 19:19, 21 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, that's not really an obstacle to promoting. If Howcheng can't see how to describe it, I can live with that. Thugh I do think that a fair amount can be said about it. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 19:39, 21 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - I was referring to the fact that it's a bit gruesome. The bloody knife with bits of skin and tendons hanging off it make me think this may not really be destined for the front page. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 00:03, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    - Oh, PLW, don't you know? Violence is fine. It's sex and bodily functions we can't put there. ;) (It's true, though. We've featured videos of people being shot, and this on the main page...) Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 00:18, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      - That was before the list was set up. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 01:02, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support Per Milburn. Great historical value, too. Gut Monk (talk) 01:22, 22 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Seems to need perspective correction. Look at the top line: it is not horizontal. Jujutacular ^talk 21:19, 22 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Since every other line is straight, and given the border is very obviously hand-drawn, I believe that's original. It's actually fairly hard to perspective-distort a scanned image, but very common for lithographs and engravings to have one or more sides not quite square. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 22:54, 22 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - Good point, thanks for the response. Support. Jujutacular ^talk 19:22, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment, possibly more of a footnote. The image is being used in list of terms used for Germans in a way that suggests POV problems - it's claimed there as an "anthropomorphised Germany", but Deutscher Michel is a less POVed and more canonical example of that, with "Germania" as a second option that is a later, Romantic era development, thus having narrower EV. But the nominee seems more of a spontaneous idea rather than part of a longer tradition (Deutscher Michel dates back to 1541 and is still in use in contemporary editorial cartoons and the like). Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 01:08, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Honestly, I didn't add it there, and have no real opinion on it being there. I just noticed it had been added. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 10:40, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - Okay, I've changed it. Turns out the only half-decent representation of Deutscher Michel that we have is actually an advertisement, so I've gone with Germania instead. If it gets removed, it's probably just as well - it's in no way required for the article. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 16:42, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support Good quality and resolution. Spencer^T♦C 18:19, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:William Allen Rogers - Only the Navy Can Stop This (WWI U.S. Navy recruitment poster).jpg

Oh no! I didn't vote for this! Are pirates gonna kill my babies? D= --I'ḏ♥One 19:37, 28 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Quick! Join the Navy! Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 21:05, 28 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]