Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Paul Oglesby

Damaged Catholic Church during the Second World War

Original - Pvt. Paul Oglesby, 30th Infantry, standing in reverence before an altar in a damaged Catholic Church.

Reason: I think the EV value is immense, and the image meets the minimum resolution requirements. The only down side is the light that comes from the open roof; I don't know if someone can make the image a bit better by tweaking the contrast or the brightness, or both. Nevertheless, in regards to the EV it shows the damage done by the Western Allies during the bombardment of Italian towns and cities during the advance in 1943-44. I think it's a powerful image, just because the subject is an American soldier in a destroyed Catholic church.
Articles this image appears in: 30th Infantry Division (United States), Acerno, Italian Campaign (World War II)
Creator: Office for Emergency Management. Office of War Information. Overseas Operations Branch. New York Office. News and Features Bureau.

Support as nominator --JonCatalán^(Talk) 20:25, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I don't think that the overblown highlights are a problem in a historic image, but is that a big dirt stain across it? If it is, this could really use a quick clean. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 22:45, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The image was replaced by one that someone found on another website, with higher resolution. Is that dirt stain still there? JonCatalán^(Talk) 23:18, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it's quite visible. It doesn't look like a particularly tough cleanup job, though. If I'm feeling a little better in the next day or two, I'll do it, or try and find someone who can. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 02:00, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment under 1MB is really too compressed for this image size. Needs rotation, lots of dirt removal, and it looks like a fairly large vertical scanner streak is here. Unless a much better version could be located I'd recommend this for valued pictures instead of FP. Durova^Charge! 02:21, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, let's see if anybody is willing to try and remove the dirt and whatnot, first. I finally found the blots of dirt; I thought "by all over the picture" you guys meant literally all over the picture. :) JonCatalán^(Talk) 04:09, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: The nom is older than 7 days... so do we want to suspend it? Spencer^T♦^C 14:14, 17 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Moving image. Unfortunately the file is too small and compressed to work with. Durova^Charge! 03:32, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Sorry to be so late to the party, but this one really caught my eye. I saw it a week or so ago and came back to see how it was getting on. It's a superb, iconic image, well worth a little restorative effort. I'm not sure what people are referring to as "lots" of dirt; the very light grain seen through the roof area is probably a "ghosted" (over-exposed) view of an exterior wall or adjacent building and shouldn't be removed IMO. A slight rotation would do wonders for it but all it needs is a quick once-over with the clone tool. I'm don't consider 1Mb to be over-compressed for a b&w image at this resolution; there aren't any artifacts that I can see. The only thing I can't see is the article-relevance. It seems odd that such a powerful, evocative illustration of the destructive power of war isn't actually in the War article, rather than (mis)placed in a campaign article and a couple of others, with dubious EV. And if it's VP-worthy it's FP-worthy for its "wow" value, don't you think? Be a shame to cast it aside for want of a little effort. mikaul^talk 00:43, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Like I said, I can't edit images very well. I will try to rotate it. JonCatalán^(Talk) 02:35, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies, I wasn't suggesting you could. It's always a good idea to run unprepared images through Peer Review first, get it fixed and save all this last-minute stuff on the FPC page. I'd be happy to do the work, I'm just concerned it'd be too late for this nomination. Rotating and retouching won't take too long but it might take me a couple of days to get round to it; EV-wise, it needs to be added to a more appropriate article as War and perhaps Ruins are the themes here, not infantry divisions or Italian towns. As it's kind of polite to give images a chance to be vetted by article editors for a while prior to FP nomination, I'd suggest re-nominating. I'm not sure what others think, but once things get this far down the page it's hard to get opinions, never mind supporting !votes. mikaul^talk 05:47, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Seriously, unless someone locates a much higher resolution version, I don't see any potential for FP here. EV, moving, etc. Yet I can't restore data that doesn't exist. Unless someone is actively looking for a better original this nomination should close. Durova^Charge! 07:34, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Great picture with outstanding and immense encyclopedic value. --Peizo (talk) 02:32, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --Wronkiew (talk) 17:12, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]